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April 24th, 2008, 08:46 AM
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officers bagy pants
yes i did the google thing but found nothink
why did the officers of all countrys have big bagy packets in there pants
i have always woundered this they look quight strange ??
best krieg.. 
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April 24th, 2008, 09:42 AM
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I'm not sure whether I understand your question krieg. Are you talking about the large pockets for supplies and ammno on the side of their trousers?
If it's just the baggy shape, some stem from the cavalry epoch when officers rode horses and needed comfortable large pants.
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April 24th, 2008, 10:24 AM
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I'm not sure whether I understand your question krieg. Are you talking about the large pockets for supplies and ammno on the side of their trousers?
If it's just the baggy shape, some stem from the cavalry epoch when officers rode horses and needed comfortable large pants.
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it wos only on officers probley more formal dress .. it looked like they had a
football in each pocket
not the ones for ammo that are in frunt on the trousers
i hope this helps .. mark 
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April 24th, 2008, 10:27 AM
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Re: officers bagy pants
If you mean these:
they are a remnant of the times when officers rode horses, those are riding pants.
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April 24th, 2008, 10:30 AM
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Re: officers bagy pants
I don't know what they were either, so what were they used for as calvary pants?
SO the army just adopted that form of trousers?
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I don't know what they were either, so what were they used for as calvary pants?
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They were used to cover the rider's bum so he wouldn't get arrested!
Yes, it became part of the military dress in a whole lot of countries.
 
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April 24th, 2008, 11:48 AM
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Re: officers bagy pants
i do thankyou fellows a lot for the info .. like the old saying goes you learn
somethink new evey day.. 
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They were used to cover the rider's bum so he wouldn't get arrested!
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when you say arrested is that slang for something , or do you mean literally arrested by the police and all?
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Re: officers bagy pants
Tomkat:
He is " pulling your leg " a form of Britsh humour, don't yah know ?
The proper name for this type of trousers, at least in the British vernacular was " riding breeches " and they were originally used by the cavalry troops, both Officers and other ranks. British cavalry troops wore a yellow leg stripe on their breeches, to distinguish them from other branches of service, who wore differently striped trousers.
By the WW2 era, no one was wearing them " in the field " and everyone in the British army was in khaki battle dress, regardless of their unit or Corps afilliation. By the way.....Kahki is a Indian word, meaning drab, or dull.
Some current British Army units still wear them as a part of their " Number One Dress " or "full dress order ", with spurs .
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He is " pulling your leg " a form of Britsh humour, don't yah know ?
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Who, me? Never!
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The proper name for this type of trousers, at least in the British vernacular was " riding breeches "
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That was the term rolling somewhere inside my brain, but sometimes it's difficult to locate stuff among the mess!
And don't you just love the Power of Google?
Word of advice: don't google up "Japanese Uniforms" unless you want to get yourself arrested!
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April 24th, 2008, 07:18 PM
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Re: officers bagy pants
I like the one on the left better. Any more of her?
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April 24th, 2008, 07:48 PM
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Re: officers bagy pants
And who could forget the Mounties?? LOL. They wore them too  .
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April 24th, 2008, 08:10 PM
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Here you go Jeff!
or did you mean this?

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Both look good, but the bottom looks better.
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hehehehe!
Oh, i just noticed!!
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April 24th, 2008, 08:54 PM
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Re: officers bagy pants
they both look quight nice all over the ladys i mean not the horse 
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April 24th, 2008, 08:56 PM
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hehehehe!
Oh, i just noticed!!
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It was either that one or this one
I like the other better.
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Yes, you made a good choice!
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Re: officers bagy pants
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Tomkat:
He is " pulling your leg " a form of Britsh humour, don't yah know ?
The proper name for this type of trousers, at least in the British vernacular was " riding breeches " and they were originally used by the cavalry troops, both Officers and other ranks. British cavalry troops wore a yellow leg stripe on their breeches, to distinguish them from other branches of service, who wore differently striped trousers.
By the WW2 era, no one was wearing them " in the field " and everyone in the British army was in khaki battle dress, regardless of their unit or Corps afilliation. By the way.....Kahki is a Indian word, meaning drab, or dull.
Some current British Army units still wear them as a part of their " Number One Dress " or "full dress order ", with spurs .
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Hate to come in on this but it isn't true. They are breeches and were popular for riding around the turn of the century however Cavalry from the Napoleonic era and beyond wore 'overalls' which are very tight fitting trousers which come up to the bottom of ones chest. These were worn with a double stripe down the side during the Victorian era, usually yellow though some regiments (Lancers spring to mind) wore white. They are still worn today with No. 1 Ceremonial Blues and take it from me they are VERY tight but look pretty good, usually worn with short boots and spurs as you say.
As far as I can tell, Khaki breeches were brought in with the introduction of 'Service Dress' at the beginning of the 20th Century. They were designed to be more comfortable and practical than overalls, they have much more room in them, chafe less and worn with either high riding boots or short boots and gaiters/chaps which offer more protection and support to the leg and ankle. I am not entirely convinced that these were ever worn by troopers but I know that by WW1 they were worn by officers throughout the army. These days they are worn by some officers as part of 'riding order' Service Dress, in place of the more normal trousers and low boots/shoes. Looks pretty good as a rule.
But yes, as a style of trousers they come from riding wear.
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The pic on the left shows soviet soldiers in their 'sharovari' which are usually called 'half breeches' over here. They were worn throughout the Red Army from before WW1 and were remarkably practical. In summer the air movement in the baggy part keeps your legs cool, in winter (and I have tried this and it works) you can stuff them with paper or straw and they insulate you. Practical kit. Officers in the RKKA often wore 'galifes' instead of sharovari, a style of breeches borrowed from the French, again, smart and practical.
Left in the pic of the lass on the left because I thought it deserved another showing. There is a damn good reason why I a) joined the cavalry and b) hang around with girls who ride (fnar fnar).
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