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January 12th, 2008, 04:41 PM
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Re: Abwehrschlacht im Huertgenwald.
OK guys, bigfun, you deliver a car, skipper the locations.... and I will deliver beer?!  
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January 12th, 2008, 04:44 PM
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Re: Abwehrschlacht im Huertgenwald.
Yeah I heard that one before and we never left the place and woke up wit a hang over the next day. I would say lets search first and celebrate after.
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January 12th, 2008, 06:38 PM
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Re: Abwehrschlacht im Huertgenwald.
Thats the spirit!
Here some US shovels found next to eachother, on the Ochsenkopf hill south of Vossenack.

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January 13th, 2008, 08:02 AM
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Re: Abwehrschlacht im Huertgenwald.
Lucky you . it looks like soldiers have been digging a foxhole there and forgot the shovels. They are in great condition, considreing they were buried for all these years.
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January 13th, 2008, 04:17 PM
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Re: Abwehrschlacht im Huertgenwald.
that sounds good to me guys, we'll celebrate our finds!
it is amazing how some of these items remain in such good condition, for something that was buried for 60 plus years!
the shovels are great Nick!
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January 16th, 2008, 02:42 PM
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Re: Abwehrschlacht im Huertgenwald.
Nice M1 Garand bayonet, found near the US shovels I posted before. Near Vossenack.

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January 16th, 2008, 03:28 PM
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Re: Abwehrschlacht im Huertgenwald.
The holes in the canteen are definitely bullet holes. Note how on one side the edges are inside the flask, on the other they bend out. In one side out the other. Probably a machinegun that put three in a tight group through it. I don't think I'd have wanted to be the original owner.....
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January 16th, 2008, 03:50 PM
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The holes are to big and from different sizes, so there had to be 3 different calibers used on that small piece! So thats why grenade scrapnell is easier to presume. Same effect but other sizes... as you can see.
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January 16th, 2008, 07:41 PM
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Re: Abwehrschlacht im Huertgenwald.
And offcourse, that bayonet fits nice with my M1 Garand I have found in the Huertgenforest 2 years ago! This was my first trip to the forest, invited by a friend. In about 5 minutes I found many .30-06 clips and buttons, buckles of an ammuntion bag, and about 40 minutes later I pull this thing above the ground. My reaction was: WHOAOAAAAA!!! 
1st. Inf. Division relic of the Huertgenforest!
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January 18th, 2008, 10:51 AM
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Wow! those are excellent finds. This one could be perfectly restored.
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January 18th, 2008, 12:27 PM
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Re: Abwehrschlacht im Huertgenwald.
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After better seeing, it are bullet holes. Germans won't drop their Feldflasche, why? Because it's mostly hanged with a (lock \? this thing) on a bread bag or with a strap on the belt so it's hard to lose your Feldflasche. I think he got shot.
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Sturm, just wanted to offer a bit of 'experimental archeology' on this one. I managed to drop my feldflasche years ago, it was a reproduction one but after a couple of weeks use the weight of the water (the lock is pretty flimsy to hold 1 kg or more of water) had weaked the leather enough that the strap broke and it fell off.Talked to an ex-Bundeswehr chap who said they had the same problem with their bottles in the 50's.
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January 19th, 2008, 11:09 AM
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Re: Abwehrschlacht im Huertgenwald.
An original 1st Inf.Div. ww2 photograph. Taken in Weisweiler, near Eschweiler. Hürtgenwald/Aachen region.

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January 21st, 2008, 09:56 PM
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Interessting ammunition find done in the Hürtgenwald region. A ditch full with a few 200 German WWI 7,92mm cartridges, some full, some empty. I can conclude they were used in WWII as well, that makes it interessting.
Just a few on pic.

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January 31st, 2008, 09:05 PM
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Re: Abwehrschlacht im Huertgenwald.
Its quiet here guys.
Well... here a special find done last April 2007, on a location where the Battle of the Bulge started. Its a silver one dime, from 1939.
Lost in battle... with a few .30-06 cartridges...

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January 31st, 2008, 11:47 PM
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Re: Abwehrschlacht im Huertgenwald.
Fantasitc finds Nick.
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wait 'til next year Nick, when I come over, I'll rent a car and we can both go visit skipper!
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February 1st, 2008, 10:48 AM
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Re: Abwehrschlacht im Huertgenwald.
Small dumphole found near Schevenhütte, last October 2007.
German beer bottles, medical bottles, stielhandgranate, US bread knife, spoons, German fieldphone parts, German toothbrush and Blendax toothpaste, US gloves and shoes, some US en German buckles and showed before in this tread German messtin, gasmask and filter. These 3 items I found on the same spot just a few hundred meters away from this dumphole.
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German and American cartridges.
Toothpaste and brush.
US knife.

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February 1st, 2008, 10:54 AM
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February 1st, 2008, 04:41 PM
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Re: Abwehrschlacht im Huertgenwald.
Some very nice finds. I like the bottle collection a lot, the German tootpaste is great too. You could probably open a museum soon! Do you know what was in the bottles, schnapps, Eier likor?
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February 1st, 2008, 06:29 PM
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Don't know for sure.
The larger ones contain beer I quess.
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February 1st, 2008, 06:49 PM
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Beer would make sense. Beer was cheap. Spirits, wine and Champagne etc. was more for officers. Eggs Liquor was popular among the Luftwaffe. They somethimes had one (when available) for an Abschuss. The white bottle with the yellow circle makes me think of a milk botlle. The smaller brown one could in fact be cough syrop. I suppose quite a few soldiers must have caught a cold in this cold forest.
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February 1st, 2008, 06:59 PM
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The bottle with the yellow circle is about 4 cm high. Not for milk I presume.
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