I was hoping you could help me with Kapfer Jg26, Jg2 ? Nightfighter? Kampfgeschader? I have no idea but was very intriged when I saw the April 16th 1944 date. I should try to find out loss dates for that day.
Same thing for your sailor who died in the west. Was he a U-boot sailor, a sailor?

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Skipper I do not see Kapfer as a Nachtjäger at all in the 16. April 44 losses of NF's and crews. Interestingly enough the losses are for Ju 88C's -2 of them and a do 217J all from NJG 101 and none of the 3 due to enemy action but mechanical mishaps and crashes. Will try and look elsewhere, and do have 2 contacts overseas that have very detailed losses listings for most of the LW flyers but alas are not much help at least to me with my inquiries, the guys just enver get back to me...........sniff, wimper

and I have to check further on the last KM bootsman, but no he was not on U-booten for fact.

An accident would'nt surprise me at all. I read

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An accident would'nt surprise me at all. However "Fliegertot" often means " died in combat", but an accident could be considered as an operational flight too. If your friends can help I would appreciate.
I read a card yesterday of a Lw airman who drowned while on a leave.... An other one died in a bombing while traveling home.

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i saw a few responses to Otto's original question, but this seems to be mostly a European thing, does anybody know of any in the States or Australia........just curious!
thanks!!!

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This is a pair of Dutch resistance crystal radios, built into a small metal can, and a matchbox. The image is from a postcard bought at a Dutch Resistance Museum in Amsterdam. The matchbox is marked in Swedish, but Swedish matches were sold in Holland for many years..
Scott

You have to help me here, E~. I don't quite remember. All I found was the file I made for myself which mentioned his crew mate twice at Wast?

Is there anything I can help you with with this?

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Stevin no you answered by checking through the Volksbund listings for me as well as your additions from the Dutch volume on the air war on several LW crews in the past. I'm fine right now.
Skipper yes it would say a flyers death or even an accident at times. have found on some points the dates can be off as well as the persons name even. Pretty weird as it sounds but true.
Bigfun I am not sure about other nations, they should have some sort of closing I would think, at least some letter from the govt to next of kin/familie.
I still look for the cards of two cousins KIA in the LW but no luck yet....

Hi E, i'll do so but, that's going to be sometime down the road. My funds are going to be ultra scarce for the forseable future because of an operation im soon to have as ewll as possibly moving house soon and because of the holidays. Im already late in making copies of a few pics that I was going to send to Whiteflight. I just haven't had time to go get copies made. Also, the only place here in town that can make "hard-copies" is closed for re-modeling. ;-))

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Hi Bugfun, yep, they made death cards here in the USA as well. I used to be a member of a site (thanks to Erich) that was strictly about the Luftwaffe. One of the bigwigs of that now defunct site, posted a card on the site. This card beared the name of someone whose name sounded VERY familiar to me. The man's last name was Sherrill. The death card had his full name and info and photo on that card. I don't remember this man's full name but, I remember this card was printed shortly after the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor.

The man who was pictured on this card, was in the Navy stationed at Pearl Harbor (and killed in the attack) and whose last name was Sherrill or so I have been told. There was only one man in the US Navy-stationed at Pearl Harbor and whose last name was Sherrill. Also on the card, it said where this man was from-which happened to be-none other than the City I currently live in -- Corpus Christi!!! Quite a coincidence - aint it? ;-))

If you ever come to Corpus Christi and drive down Ocean Drive here, at some point, you will pass a Park - which was named: Sherrill Park, in honor of the memory of this Corpus Christi native. Several times a year, Vets from WWII to the Gulf War, have ceremony's at Sherrill Park. The last time I went to one of their ceremony's, I had the priviledge of meeting a Vietnam Veteran who served three tours in Nam, and who also had been wounded on five seperate occasions. It turned out that this vet, had finally decided to come out and celebrate Veterans Day - for the first time; since the end of the Vietnam War.

OK, here in

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I believe death cards were derived from the little cards people originally used to mark pages in the bible. These cards were also used by priests who gave them as good points to children at school. They usually had saints on them . They were also used them for communions , baptisms and burials. Then later, they were personnalised with a psalm, a poem , a picture and even a brief story. This was also done for civilians. In Germany you could go to any printer and choose a death card from a catalogue (note the references at the lower corner of the card. On one side you would choose a holy image and on the other you would post the picture of the dead person with his details. If you believed not in God, you could pick a neutral image, such as a grave. There were all kinds of formulas ready for those who were to grieved to think about a nice poem. Many of these were also used as epitaphs, Like: "He fought a good fight", he who dies for his fatherland will go to heaven", "died for country and Führer" "will never be forgotten", "the grieve will go but the memory stays" "death is better than dishonnor" etc.... The death cards are interesting because they often give names, dates, places and even political hints. Also the place of the printer was often the town of residence of the casualty and could be useful for searchers. Other formulas are vague and vey common due to strategical reasons, like: " died during heavy fights in the East"

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very interesting, thanks skipper!

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This is a pair of Dutch resistance crystal radios, built into a small metal can, and a matchbox. The image is from a postcard bought at a Dutch Resistance Museum in Amsterdam. The matchbox is marked in Swedish, but Swedish matches were sold in Holland for many years..
Scott

more coming from the stockade but yes as Skipper mentions plus death certificates some of them very original in design and ornate. by chance any of you have seen the Ww 1 cards, very similar in design as well to Ww 2

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Just follow the link I mentionned earlier and you will see WWI cards too. Thanks for posting this ostfront casuluaty Erich. I will look up a nice Luftwaffe card tonight and post it later.

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Skipper that would be grand, I am now in pursuit of another S-booten members card lost on his S-boot in late 44

Here is another one Erich : this man died during the Battle of France. I dont know his story but he probably died at the LANGRES air base (crash, accident or strafing ? )

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accident as it probably would of mentioned a Fliegertod ?

heres a interesting one, maybe on the Orion ? aux cruiser member

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Not soldiers but civilians who died helping the British to liberate Wevelgem (indeed the town where I live in.) 4 young men:

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Sixty-four bomber pilots and crew lie in the cemetery at Wevelgem Communal and today many locals still pay their respects to those brave men from high in the skies.

Nice example of a Belgian death card . Thank you for sharing.

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another through the Sturmgesch. units

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