Skipper look again the Kondor was shot down by a M0ssie II

Ok, thanks ! My enthousiasm made me overread the fact that it was a Mossie.
I have some info about this Geschwader being temporarery assigned to Bourges (Avord) while the rest was still further south. Do you know the Mosquito's Operation/Crew?

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Erich could there be a spelling error in your village name? I checked my atlas and there is no Verly near Bourges (there is only in the Ardennes! ) . However there is place called Vailly right next to Avord. You may be talking about this place.

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the mis-spelling could of been from WASt and or the Volksbund. The Mossie crews names and ranks are in that post skipper..............and yes I would like information if you can post on KG 40's operations in Bourges as I am trying to collect as much as possible on KG 40, several books of note are good but it is great to have other info obviously..........

got another card coming for show.

well I have a couple of the rare KM Schnellbooten cards here is one that I just purchased today even -with the firms trademark across the front. Interesting to research the guys and find out just which S-boot they served on if possible, this gent served on S - 198

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Erich I must be overworked. For a while I thought the crew mentionned was German (Brown could have ben brown Braun)

my records of KG40 are incomplete for 1944, but I have a Kondor of the 8th Staffel shot down on February 5th. This Kondor was at the wrong place at the wrong moment. It was flying to Cognac to pick up a load of bombs when it was sighted by P-38s from the 20FG. These were escorting bombers targeting the Bourges Avord Airfield. The opportunity was too big and some of the p-38s left the escort for a while to get some target practise on this FW 200 C-4 (probably while it was taking off). I don't know the names of the crews.

If you are interested in sharing more Kondor losses send me a PM , I have a few other around my "back yard" .

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yes I am but lets continue with the cards here on this thread .........

after thought, do you have the P-38 encounter report(s) ?

I am afraid not. I know they exist because they once were mentionned on another forum which address I don't remember. If I have time I'll come back with another pic or two of a death card.

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give me a couple of days Skipper and I may have it to attach here on start on another thread, in fact that is an absolute great idea......... ah the simple mind.

why don't you start one up about LW lost and found Kondors in France or ? I am quite interested in FAGr 5 at it's base on your eastern coast line 43-44 with the Ju 290A. Of course anyone would be welcome to discuss and post their findings and research...

another card coming up soon.

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last one for the day as I have to run off for another bike ride this time in the dank fog.... 34F

though sad in respect for these men it is always interesting to search and see what they were involved with, unit wise and where they may have gone, engagements, other personell

in a long range recee unit but which one ? the Baltic no less, shot down by Soviet fighters or ship AA ?

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Soviet fighters I would say as on February 1944 most of the Baltic coast was still controled by Germany. However it could have been hit while flying over Soviet lines and crash trying to get home. It would be interesting to try to find out about Soviet claims and recee losses for the day. What did thse units usually fly? Henschels, Storchs? I have no idea.

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I've asked some experten the last week on this guy, numerous answers as to units and then they take back theri answers stating they are not sure........hmmmmmmm well reagrdless I think the airman flew in either a Ju 88D or a Ju 188 recon bird especially since it is noted on his card he is from a LONG range unit.

well hopeful more within a weeks time on him and the engagement

I think we may have found something or ...... ? from another forum

you mention FAGr 1 but without a/ c, but did it have smaller units under it's overall command during that time period ?

I guess it did, but how would I recognize them? Also in Lettland are listed 1.(F)/122 and 5.(F)/122, but to which superior units were they attached? I know the Staffel/Gruppen/Geschwader organization of the Jagdflieger, but the Aufklärer don't fit in that template.

Looking closely, Stab/FAGr 1 and 1.(F)/122 are listed on the same field in subsequent lines with 1.(F)/122 annotated "Total 7 Ju 188". Diligent between-the-lines reading suggests that the authors perhaps meant to say that these units had 7 aircraft between them. I hate to say that, but German books on aviation topics are frequently unprofessional in the details! Errors and ambiguities ...

craps no not 1.F.122 they were based out of Greece in January and through February 44 so the guy is not part of that unit .........

back to it

In the meantime here is a Fallschirmjäger who fell at the end of the the battle of Normandy (Falaise?) and who is buried in Saint André.

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Skipper any idea of what unit ? not sure what Fallshirm units took part alongside the 17th W-SS on the "west" end of Normandie...........am I right about this in this mans case ?

Well the problem with those cards are that I could start a research for all of them and I just don't have the time, so I'm afraid the answer is no idea.

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persistance pays off I think, through research and asking intelligent questions. for the above card the long range recee chap Karl S.

Hi Erich,

3.(F)/22 might be the unit you're after. For the period of interest they were based at Riga and during Jan44 and Feb44 were operating the Ju 188F-1, they received a single Ju 88D-1 in Feb44.


well Skipper will have to follow up on the Fallshirm chap unless one of our other distinguished members can add their two cents

Good research Erich! So Riga is the place. I will see if I have time to post one or two others.

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Here is another challenge for you Erich : This man was the pilot of a bomber during the Campaign of France. He died in combat on May 1940. I haven't had time to find out about his unit or the nature of the Operation, I'd imagine he was flying a HE111 or a Do17s and being shot down while attacking a target in northern France

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Skipper looking back at the LW Fallschirm chap, dark collar patches .........and it could be just the filter but they look red / maybe a member of the Normandie LW FJ Rgt 6 ?

Regiment 6 would make sense. I will try to check later. Didn't that the unit got hammered precisely at Falaise? His burial place is close to my mom's home. Cheers Erich.