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Old July 20th, 2003, 12:25 PM
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OK. Bill, how much did they cost all together?
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Bill,

I know the allies and axis both used the "Belgium made Browning Hi Power 9mm" was it the waffen ss that mainly used it? When was the eagle and swastika stamped on them? My father said my grandfather had two of them with consecutive numbering. dont know what happend to them.
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Munken -

It cost me a lot of time and effort.

DB -

I'm not sure about the answer to your question right off. I've got to head out for work today, so I've not a lot of time at the moment to research this one out. Give me a couple of days and I'll get back to you on this.

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Old July 20th, 2003, 02:36 PM
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No problem Bill!

Take your time.
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Old July 20th, 2003, 09:46 PM
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Bill, I meant in dollars, money. Even I understand that you must bspend much time to keep weapons in good shape but i'm courious about WWII weapons valiues. I would like to own some WWII weapons When i have money for it but thats a long time until i will try to buy any.
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Old July 21st, 2003, 06:32 AM
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DB, ref the 'Belgian-made Browning Hi-Power'...

This was the Mle.35 GP 'Pistolet a Grande Puissance' ( 'High-Power' ) made from 1935 by the FN factory at Herstal, near Liege, Belgium. 69,000 of these had been made in total before the German invasion of Belgium. Some existing stocks were immediately pressed into service by the Germans.

Production then resumed with the pistol becoming the Pistole 640(b) in German nomenclature. Some 319,000 were made between 1940/44. Belgian versions were slotted for a shoulder stock and had tangent sights, German production models lost, first, the slot and finally the tangent rear sights with standard of finish declining noticeably by 1944.

First deliveries were, in fact, exclusive to the Wehrmacht, with 153,464 being delivered by the end of 1942. Latterly, the guns were favoured by the Waffen-SS and the most famous picture of a HP-equipped German soldier is 'that' photo of the blonde Panzer Grenadier taken near Poteau in the Bulge campaign.

Hi-Power drawings had been sent to Britain from Belgium ; Britain did not have the capacity to produce the weapon so the plans were passed to the Inglis factory in Canada who commenced production as the 'Inglis-Browning Hi-Power'. Relatively limited quantities were issued ( I don't have figures ) and went mainly to Commando and Airborne troops ( General Urquhart cetainly carried one at Arnhem, for instance ).

Today, Waffenamt-marked examples are highly sought-after and good ones command some quite high prices. Forum member Matt ( mp38 ) - who we haven't heard from for a while - has a very nice example in his collection and I'm ashamed to say that I'm very envious.....

And here's a little piccie ( use the 'enlarge' icon ) : -

http://www.panchogun.com/FVWebPhotos...03-5x100px.jpg

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Old July 23rd, 2003, 10:10 PM
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AAAHHH, Thanks Bull! That picture almost made me and my father cry . My father said that pic is exactly the way both of my grandfathers looked except the were not adjustable sites.

Anyway, Thanks for the pic and info!
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