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March 17th, 2006, 04:20 PM
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Just had a newsflash that the exact place where Sergeant Alvin York won his MOH in WW1 has finally been located, ending decades of speculation-
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Gordon your posting above brings up some Linux test page.
Re P/O Clarke memorial, I stumbled across it looking for invasion defences in the area about 15 years ago. How did you hear about it Martin?
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March 17th, 2006, 10:32 PM
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Ian,
The link seems to work ok for me?
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March 18th, 2006, 07:22 PM
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yep that works, fascinating piece of detective work! How do you find these?
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Great links to the Hurricane pilot story and the Sgt. York story. You really come through for us with all of them. Thanks Gordon. I like the idea of an archeology course in WWII military sites.
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Ian,
Sign of a misspent youth! 
No, actually I'm a member of these-
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March 19th, 2006, 01:49 AM
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The CAIRN group looks like something right up our alley. There must be lots of links you get from them. I will have to bookmark them as well.
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Here's an interesting one I've received recently which the forum may be able to solve, although I'm not at all certain that this is military archaeology...
The email reads..
"In the woods behind our house there is a group of three structures that
we have always understood to be part of the anti-invasion system that
was set up during WW2. They are now crumbling quite rapidly so I am
taking photographs of them before they disappear completely. There is
evidence on the ground of a fourth structure that has now disappeared.
There are three huts. One larger, the second hut is a
smaller version of this one. The third structure is a much plainer
square-shaped building made out of blocks, with just one window. It
appears to be more of a storage facility or an animal shed (it has a
horizontally split door, and there has been no attempt to give it
"beams" on the outside). The large hut shown in this photo had a proper
front door with a letter box. Inside are several rooms, and all were
wired up with proper light switches etc.
I would be interested to know exactly what they were used for. On the
other side of this hut is a recently drawn-up sign saying "Danger, deep
well". Could there be an OB or a bunker below it? Any information on
websites where I could learn more about these interesting structures
would be welcomed."
Ordnance Survey Map of area
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See what you mean, Ian. Could be that the larger hut was a requisitioned civilian one, since it seems a complicated design; then again, it's built on the same kind of foundations I've seen on Nissen huts.
The smaller hut could be a WO addition, with the breeze block one used for storing ammo/fuel.
I'll have a trawl through some books to see if there's any kind of military structure noted there.
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March 20th, 2006, 10:05 AM
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I think if this was a military camp it was taken over by the post-war squatters, as they seem to have been "civilianised"
Here's a link to an interesting essay on the movement
The Squatters of 1946
Here's the intro.
"All over Britain in the summer of 1946 homeless families squatted in camps left disused by the armed forces, and in offices and empty blocks of flats. This was direct action over the most pressing social issue of the day. Domestic politics was shaken, and for a moment “the government feared widespread disorder… an outbreak of direct action which could have spread like a prairie fire.” "
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london socialist historians? huh?
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You'd be amazed, Fortune..... |
March 21st, 2006, 09:09 AM
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Does anyone know of any program or website that converts wartime Cassini Map refs to OS map refs?
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I've got some acetate overlays which I got from the RE to do that, but it's still a complicated procedure. Hopefully someone's come up with a programme to do it now.
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March 21st, 2006, 09:31 AM
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I should have googled harder.
This looks promising. Cassini Conversion
Btw I managed to get the local Home Guard's Intelligence Officers file from the local record office. It's got Cassini refs for all the road blocks, etc.
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Here's the programme for the 4th International Fields of Fire Conference on battlefield archaeology, due to take place at the Royal Armouries, Leeds, from 29th Sept. to 3rd October this year.
4th International Fields of Fire Conference
One of the presentations is on Pointe du Hoc, the rest are pretty international too.
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Some fascinating finds from Russia.
This is captured Soviet T34 tank salvaged from a lake.
Finnish Brewster Buffalo shot down 1939-1940 during the Soviet-Finnish Winter War.
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Just been reading Beaches Fields, Streets and Hills and the author mentions two locations of anti-invasion defences in England where explosives were still found in 2005.
One was a flame fougasse in Kent which still had explosive charge and oil intact and the other was Sarre Bridge which still had demolition charges in place.
Does anyone have anymore info?
can't find any mention on google.
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