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December 1st, 2004, 08:22 PM
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Gordon, the answer is no, no and no !  Looks like I'm going to have to nip back down to Motor Books to have another look ! [img]graemlins/no.gif[/img]
It did look interesting....
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December 1st, 2004, 09:03 PM
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Gawd help us....
They're not making the anoraks like they used to.... [img]graemlins/no.gif[/img]  |
December 2nd, 2004, 12:00 AM
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suppose this is archaeology, so here goes...
Recently acquired a copy of Shipwreck Index of the British Isles volume 4, by Richard and Bridget Larne. This part of a series commissioned by Lloyd's Register of Shipping and is an attempt to create a national British register of Shipwrecks, working around the coast on a county basis. This volume covers Scotland, and lists six THOUSAND wrecks going back to the 12th century.
This book goes into incredible detail, so much so that the national heritage organisations used it as their "bible" a few years back when they were digitising the various National Monuments Records.
It's a hefty book, but easy to read. It has a plethora of detail on every ship listed, and is valuable for some ongoing research of mine.
The other nine or so volumes in the series are available second-hand, but I had to order this one directly from the publishers. It's expensive (£49), but well worth every penny, and to their credit the publishers gave me a free copy of the supplementary index to the first four volumes.
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December 2nd, 2004, 12:01 AM
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suppose this is archaeology, so here goes...
Recently acquired a copy of Shipwreck Index of the British Isles volume 4, by Richard and Bridget Larne. This is part of a series commissioned by Lloyd's Register of Shipping and is an attempt to create a national British register of Shipwrecks, working around the coast on a county basis. This volume covers Scotland, and lists six THOUSAND wrecks going back to the 12th century.
This book goes into incredible detail, so much so that the national heritage organisations used it as their "bible" a few years back when they were digitising the various National Monuments Records.
It's a hefty book, but easy to read. It has a plethora of detail on every ship listed, and is valuable for some ongoing research of mine.
The other nine or so volumes in the series are available second-hand, but I had to order this one directly from the publishers. It's expensive (£49), but well worth every penny, and to their credit the publishers gave me a free copy of the supplementary index to the first four volumes.
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December 2nd, 2004, 12:01 AM
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December 4th, 2004, 01:12 PM
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Another one for you Martin,
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December 4th, 2004, 05:31 PM
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Hmmm - I think they're being a little fanciful about 'historical importance'. RAF Bicester isn't exactly another Scampton, Duxford or Thorpe Abbotts....
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December 8th, 2004, 09:25 AM
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Just got word that CAIRN (Conflict Archaeology International Research Network) will be holding a conference on Warfare and Violence in Prehistoric Europe at Queen's University, Belfast on 28-29th May 2005.I'll keep you posted on further details.
Martin,
Discover the name of that book on military architecture yet?
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December 10th, 2004, 01:15 AM
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Just found this site-
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It's run by a few members of the Fortress Study Group, and is devoted to the world-wide study of fortifications.
When I can figure how to post the latest newsletter in here, I will. Certain members will find it fascinating! |
December 10th, 2004, 03:28 PM
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Martin,
Check this one out-
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December 15th, 2004, 06:30 PM
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Anyone heard of this one before? It's a new one to me..
Giant Flying Boat found
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You ever remember the name of that book you saw in London? |
December 16th, 2004, 06:44 AM
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Ahhh - good old 'Grauniad', 'Marshall' was the name given to the individual aircraft which was actually a Martin Mars - not mentioned in the article. Until very recently, a couple of these gigantic 'planes were used for water-bombing forest fires ; they're now 'grounded' on a lake in Canada.
You can see lots more at ; -
http://www.vectorsite.net/avmars.html
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December 21st, 2004, 05:30 PM
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Not quite military archaeology but...the Alcan aluminium plant at Falkirk in Scotland closed its doors this week.
So what ?  you ask. According to local reports, the plant originally opened in the 1940s producing dural for Spitfires.....
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December 21st, 2004, 06:15 PM
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Sure did, Martin.
It's about 10 miles down the road from me btw.
There were also a number of LAA sites around it, but these have all long gone unfortunately.
The factory is also about a mile and a half from the old airfield at Grangemouth, which had a practice AA camp on its NE perimeter. The airfield is now totally engulfed by the BP refinery.
After the war, U-Boats were broken up at the shipyard at nearby Bo'Ness.
I just found this: Flying Boat Museum
What's the new member rating gizmo, and how much is the bribe? [img]tongue.gif[/img]
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Of interest to those looking for good books on fortifications and such one worth getting is:
The Architecture of War by Keith Mallory and Arvid Ottar. Pantheon Books NY, NY 1973. isbn 0=394-48825-3 or 70997-7 (paperback version)
A considerable amount of the book covers British subjects like bomb shelters, the Army and Navy forts in the Thames Estuary and other such topics.
An alternate previous title to this book in the UK was Architecture of Aggression
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December 23rd, 2004, 05:35 AM
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Cheers TA!
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December 29th, 2004, 04:03 PM
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just found out that an English friend with the help of local Dutch historians have found the a/c of Lt. Gerhard Karl. a Bf 109G of JG 26 and also a Ju 88G-6 lost on 31.12.44 of 7./NJG 2. One of the crewmen is still listed as missing so the hunt is on to find him.........more on all of this later in 2005....
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December 29th, 2004, 10:38 PM
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Nice one, Erich!
Keep us posted of any more developments?
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January 2nd, 2005, 07:53 AM
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Just browsed into this one which is amazing - especially for anyone interested in the Pacific Theatre.
WARNING ! : Only click on the link if you've got plenty of time to spare.....
http://wrecks.fortin-home.com/
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January 7th, 2005, 10:47 PM
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Seen this one Martin?
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I wish they could have told the type of bomber it was. If they knew six crew were in the wreck they should know the bomber type.
The story told more about the Spitfire than the bomber.
Oh well, thanks for posting it Gordon, maybe someday you can tell what type of bomber it was.
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