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Old October 12th, 2006, 03:55 PM
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Which direction do you think modern warfare should be heading towards?
Personally, I think is air weapon, since it is the most maneuverable weapon.
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Old October 12th, 2006, 03:59 PM
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Yes I would agree. I would probably say that the missile would be the most common tool for warfare.
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Old October 12th, 2006, 11:43 PM
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Drones, robotics, and space (orbiting) missile platforms containing "whatever" for warheads.
Airbursts which cause EMP to take out communications/control (in a semi-conductor world).

If you want to destroy the Earth...that is.

Remote vehicles/weapons if you don't. Virtually everything can be deployed remotely, and operate without direct human contact.

The (near) future will see 1,000,000 times more.
War will become a chess game in which only the targets (anyone/anything) die....anywhere.

No "Joust", Mano e Mano anymore.
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Old October 12th, 2006, 11:45 PM
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Nothing ever has and nothing ever will replace the Grunt.
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Old October 12th, 2006, 11:51 PM
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You're right
Einstien said.
"I don't know what they'll fight World War III with, but World War IV will be fought with sticks and stones.
Somebady has to throw them.
When there's nothing else left, the Grunt will be there.
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Old October 13th, 2006, 12:25 AM
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Remote control vehicles are used commonly by modern armies however they are mostly assigned to recon missions.
I imagine a land vehicle whick looks like the one that NASA sent to Mars, only faster, and a machinegun or anti-tank missle placed on the top. It can either be conrolled remotely by a human, or even more scary it can be controlled by artificial intelligence. Sounds fictional but I think in a few decades this might be possible. But todays computer technology is not enough for that kind of artificial intelligence control.
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They say these vehicles are used in Iraq for bomb defusing. Newer versions will have offensive abilities.

Here is an article about "How Future Combat Systems Will Work"

"How Future Combat Systems Will Work"
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Very much the model "T".
Look how fast the Commodor 64 (commode 64), and the TRS-80 (trash 80) have turned into what we have now.
We only know what they "show & tell" us, definately not everything.
Best guess would put us 20 years behind what actually is now, and 40 behind what their working on. Worldwide.
Secrets, secrets.
Some things that aren't a secret are we are running out of fresh water, air, fish, oil and space to live.
One upscale natural disaster and the survivors will fight for what is left.
Lets say like Comet Schumacher Levi.
It hit Jupiter 21 times in 5 days in July of 1994.
With a force of.....
6 MILLION megatons!
Ahhhh... Humility.
It's not nice to fool with "Mother Nature"!
Space the only frontier left.
Bombardment of targets, cities, countries, will become planetary bombardment.
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Yes I have to agree with Col. Hessler. If all this high tech stuff works then why did B-52's end the fighting in Yugoslavia, or why has Bin Ladin not been found, or the war in Iraq is going on as strong as ever, or they don't take out the nut cases in N. Korea. The "salesmen" who said in the 60's that the missle will replace the gun on aircraft and fighters will not be needed are the same types who promote all the high tech stuff. Also in the 60's they promoted the F-111 as a wonder weapon. It's come and gone, the B-52 is still here and will be around longer than the B-1 and the F-117. I read that the F-117's are already being retired.

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We do not need all the high tech stuff to work.
We only need some of them to work, and that is enough.
Any other thoughts on the future of warfare?
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I sincerely HOPE, no one opens "Pandora's Box" when it comes to (not poison) but mutated (genetically engineered/enhanced) disease weapons.
Once out, then what?
I believe they are still the greatest threat to civilization.
Look what simple/natural things like Malaria, Small Pox, Polio, Bubonic Plague, Anthrax, Hepatitus, Encephalitus, Typhoid and the list goes on.
As much as we are different....when it comes to this, we are the same.
All victims.
Hopefully no Crack-pot/Despot Wanna-be pulls the trigger on something soooooo INSANE !!
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They say these vehicles are used in Iraq for bomb defusing. Newer versions will have offensive abilities.
That's hardly new technology Kerem The British designed 'Wheelbarrow' robot entered service in 1972.

Ironcross , I'm puzzled by this statement
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We do not need all the high tech stuff to work.
We only need some of them to work, and that is enough.
Are you implying that high-tech will conquer all (tell that to the Russians who fought in Afghanistan) or do you mean it doesn't matter if some technology fails on the battlefield, or what??
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Im sorry what does this have to do with Russians in Afganistan???
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yes, the germans had a very similar device, what was that called?
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The Germans did have a somewhat similar device Fortune, it was called the Goliath. It was remote controled via a wire, but it was a demolitions device, meaning you drove it near a target, and then you blew it up. There were no optics, sensors or machine guns on it.
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Von Poop you are right that is not something new but when that machine is used for offense and controlled by artificial intelligence (not in close future btw), it will be something. It might be used for seek and destroy missions. When equipped with a night vision camera, a thermal camera and a minigun that thing will be a Termiantor.
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Yet for every measure since time immemorial comes a countermeasure.
Complexity heaped upon counter-complexity.
In the end, it'll 'always come down to the bayonet'.
(Or the Lee-Enfield bringing down Hinds )
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Old November 9th, 2006, 09:19 PM
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F 35 JSF picture
"Next Generation Fighter-Bomber. Nine nations are partnering in the F-35’s System Development and Demonstration (SDD) phase: The United States, United Kingdom, Italy, the Netherlands, Turkey, Canada, Denmark, Norway and Australia."

Turkey is going to buy 100 jets, some parts of them will be produced in Turkey. The cost of that purchase is about 10 billion dollars. I don't know how much it will cost for the U.S.

An interesting characteristic of F-35: "Lockheed Martin developed the idea for a Short Take-Off Vertical Landing (STOVL) lift system that uses a vertically oriented Shaft Driven Lift Fan (SDLF)."

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They say the operating cost of the plane will be low but I must say that modern war will cost too much...
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Warfare is evolving all the time.

Now the military doctrine of Rapid Dominance or shock and awe is considered the modern successor to blitzkrieg. Unlike blitzkrieg, rapid dominance relies heavily on air power, smart weapons and cruise missiles, large amounts of central coordination, and focuses on destroying the enemy's command and control structures rather than its supply lines.

An important part of this strategy is stealth aircraft, and multi role stealth Submarines operating undetected close inshore.
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I agree Anzac, but you left out "intel", and the ever-present "turn-coats" (spies). Pay-offs recruit/aquire alot of inside information, targets/people/facilities.
I believe this will be omni-present even with the (fantasy) Alien invasion/attack.
Someone will always be "for Sale".
Be that money, life, or power.
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no matter how much you may dominate in the air, you will always need the PBI (Poor Bloody Infantry) to hold it on the ground
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Old December 6th, 2006, 09:40 PM
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And that Poor Bloody Infantry will always encounter guerilla resistance.
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Look at Korea...we dominated the air but they all hid underground! I assume that by now, North Korea is just a mass of underground networks going 20 stories down, with exits into China. As powerful as Airpower is, its only 2D...it can only look down on things. It cant look inside of buildings, or underground, or (when robotic) make decisions it needs to. Infantry has always and will always be the core to any army.
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