Mediterranean-

over 40% of total major warship losses of the Royal Navy world-wide

one battleship,
two fleet carriers,
20 cruisers and cruiser-minelayers,
67 destroyers and escort destroyers,
45 submarines,
escorts, minesweepers, landing craft, coastal forces

http://www.naval-history.net/WW2194505.htm

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This is Hitler's June 1942 order to Rommel to execute all german political refugees who were found with the Free French forces after their surrender.

http://www.ns-archiv.de/krieg/frankr...fehl_img.shtml

Cheers,

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"Gentlemen! You can't fight in here, this is the War Room!"
(President Merkin Muffley in "Dr. Strangelove")

Operation Torch and U-boats:

It is astonishing that these huge convoys had escaped the submarines that were lying in wait for them; this was partly due to the chance that a group of U-boats near the Azores had been drawn off in their savage pursuit of an unrelated convoy heading towards the UK from Freetown which lost 13 ships, and partly to the improved British marine signals security. Off the landing beaches the uncertainty created by the deception campaign led to the U-boats being drawn back to form a screen deeper into the Mediterranean.

http://www.bletchleypark.org.uk/dchi...&sectioncode=3

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Small anecdote from North Africa:

A young German Luftwaffe Ensign requests his pay. The paymaster is about to record the transaction in the pay book.

Ensign: Take another page - here the awards must be added!
Paymaster: (is looking at the page, EK I being recorded) You really think you will receive more than the EK I?
Ensign: As a matter of course!
Paymaster: (scrolling over a view empty pages, sarcastic) Well then, I hope this will be enough for the Oak Leaves and Swords!

The Ensign was Jochen Marseille, with 158 victories the most successful pilot outside the Eastern front. If only the paymaster had foreseen the introduction of the Brilliants!

[ 06. December 2003, 10:52 AM: Message edited by: KnightMove ]

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If someone tries to remove the speck in your right eye, will you turn to him the other also?

I just read on Marseille that despite being a show-off ( at least before Africa ) he wasn´t very keen on talking to interviewers.

On a Finnish book on WW2 pilots there was a part where he kept answering very shortly. Something like this:

The interviewer followed by Marseille´s answer:

- So you are a famous pilot
- Yes, I am.

- Is it hard to fight in Africa?
- Yes, mostly.

- Are the British good fighter pilots?
- Oh yes!

- But you have dropped many enemy planes?!
- I think so.

- The Führer awarded you the Knight´s Cross!
- Yes.

And so on....

Seems like the Propaganda office did not get much on him in the films...

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If you have a close look, it isn't Marseille's style of answer, but rather a stupid style to ask questions by the journalist. These *were* only yes/no-questions, or facts asking for confirmation.

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If someone tries to remove the speck in your right eye, will you turn to him the other also?

Other way to stop the supplies reaching Rommel:

A blow against Rommel In November 1942, 180kg (400lb) of plastic explosive was used by an SOE team, aided by Greek partisans, to blow up the Gorgopotamos bridge on Greece's Salonika-Athens railway. This had been carrying vital supplies for Rommel's Afrika Korps in the desert war against the British 8th Army.

http://www.channel4.com/history/micr...ion/cross.html

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Begging your pardon, Kai, but this is incorrect. There was a 115th Panzergrenadier Regiment, but not a 115th Panzergrenadier Division. The 115th was a regiment of the 15th Panzergrenadier Division, which was the actual linear descendant of the 15th Panzer Division of the old Afrika Korps days. At least, every reference work I have says that the 15th Panzer was reformed as the 15th Panzergrenadier in Sicily with some extra units drafted in from elsewhere (for example, the 129th Panzergrenadier Regiment of the defunct 22nd Panzer Division, which was disbanded in Russia).

Yours,
Paul

Thanx for the info Paul!

And now:

On battle of Matapan

I myself was inclined to think that the Italians would not try anything… I bet Commander Power, the Staff Officer, Operations, the sum of ten shillings that we would see nothing of the enemy.’ Admiral Andrew Cunningham


http://www.watersideweb.co.uk/Barham/matapan.htm


It was the first fleet action of the WWII, the first since the Battle of Jutland, the first in the Mediterranean since the Battle of the Nile in 1798, and the first fought at night. It was the first time that carrier-borne aircraft played a vital and indispensable role and radar-equipped ships were used in a fleet action .

http://www.royal-navy.mod.uk/static/pages/5798.html

German dive-bombers had seriously damaged the aircraft carrier Illustrious in January and their intelligence believed that Admiral Cunningham’s Mediterranean Fleet possessed only one operational battleship. Accordingly the Italians, whose battlefleet was crippled at Taranto, calculated that a force of heavy cruisers supported by the battleship Vittorio Veneto would be sufficient to deal with light British forces around Crete.

In fact the British were in much better shape. All three battleships were intact and another carrier, Formidable, had recently arrived.

Ultra had broken Axis codes and warned when the Italian fleet sailed on 26 March.

Cunningham cleared the area of convoys and despatched Vice Admiral Pridham-Wippell’s cruiser squadron to the south of Crete. On 27 March a reconnaissance aircraft from Malta spotted three Italian cruisers and four destroyers heading for Crete. Cunningham sailed with his battlefleet that evening.

The battle commenced at 0745 on 28 March when Pridham-Wippell’s four light cruisers sighted a squadron of three Italian heavy cruisers. The Italians 203mm guns opened fire at a range at which the 152mm weapons of the British ships could not initially reply. Pridham-Wippell retired towards Cunningham’s force at the full speed in the hope of drawing the enemy into a trap, but at 0855 the Italians suddenly withdrew.

The Italian commander, Admiral Iachino, planned to annihilate the British cruisers involving a pincer movement with the battleship Vittorio Veneto. The action began well for the Italians when the Veneto’s 381mm guns opened fire at 1055 to the complete surprise of the British. Pridham Wippell’s cruisers laid a smokescreen, but were caught in the crossfire between the Veneto and the Italian cruisers.

Formidable’s Albacore torpedo-bombers attacked the Italian battleship without success, but having no air cover Iachino realised his vulnerability and ordered his forces to retire. The chase was on. In a further attack at 1510, the Veneto was hit by one torpedo and her speed was reduced. Cunningham knew he had no chance of catching the Italian battleship unless she was hit again, so he ordered at final air strike at dusk. Instead the heavy cruiser Pola was torpedoed and stopped dead in the water.

The Italian Admiral, unaware of the Cunningham’s pursuing battlefleet, now made fateful error. He ordered a squadron of cruisers and destroyers to return and protect the Pola. None of the Italian ships were equipped for night fighting. The British battlefleet detected the Italians on radar shortly after 2200. In one of the most dramatic moments in the war at sea during World War Two, the battleships Barham, Valiant and Warspite opened fire at only 3500 metres annihilating two Italian heavy cruisers in five minutes. In the melee that followed British destroyers sank two Italian destroyers and the unfortunate Pola.

Five ships were sunk and around 2,400 Italian sailors were killed, missing or captured. The British lost only three aircrew when one torpedo bomber was shot down. Cunningham lost his bet, but added another famous victory to the annals of the Royal Navy.



http://www.ahoy.tk-jk.net/macslog/BattleofMatapan.html

The German Vice Admiral E. Weichold, writing about Matapan, said:

"The unhappy result of this action, the first offensive operation which the Italian Fleet had undertaken through German pressure after nine months of war, was a shattering blow to the Italian Navy and it's prestige. If they attributed blame to the false German report of the torpedoeing of Battleships, and failure of Aircraft support, there at any rate remained an inner reaction, a more stubborn refusal to undertake offensive operations against a superior British sea power."

[ 18. December 2003, 09:45 AM: Message edited by: Kai-Petri ]

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Italian info:

The OVRA were the secret police of Benito Mussolini under Fascism Italy. They was formed in 1927 and lead by Arturo Bocchini. The full Italian name for OVRA was 'Opera Vigilanza Repressione Antifascismo' which means the 'Organisation for Vigilance against Anti-Fascist Activities' in English. About 4000 people were arrested by the OVRA and sent to prisons on remote Mediterranean islands. The conditions in these prisons were extremely poor so many anti-Fascists simply left Italy for their own safety. The death penalty had also been restored under Mussolini for serious offences, but from 1927 to 1940, 'only' ten people were sentenced to death. As a result, the actions of the OVRA have been massively overshadowed by the actions of their contemporaries, the Gestapo and SS in Nazi Germany.

http://www.4reference.net/encycloped...edia/OVRA.html

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Nice Africa Korps pics:

http://home.online.no/~vestil/afrika/

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Of course Marseille was a show off, he was 18 when he started combat operations on channel coast. How mature were you when you were 18? I spent a lot of time drinking beer myself. It amazes me that these fighter pilots,( most notably Von Richthofen ), are put under the microscope for "correct" behaviour. They were kids. Buerling was a show off, so what?, he could do it! Dizzy Dean said; if you can do it, it ain't braggin. Don't mean to sound negative, just my 2 cents.

Good point - I constantly remind people that Guy Gibson, for instance, was 24 when he led 617 Squadron to the dams.

Memoirs of the Battle of Britain often remind us that the RAF pilots weren't aware that they were 'saving civilisation' or whatever - 'we were just little John Waynes who couldn't wait to let rip with our eight Brownings...' ( Paddy Barthropp )

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"Stand by to pull me out of the seat if I get hit" - Guy Gibson

Indeed! When I look at the Squadron Leaders and Wing Commanders who are buried in Holland and who were up to eight years younger when they died than my age now(!!!!), I wonder what I am doing with my life.

Granted, Try and find an 25 year old WC nowadays in the RAF...

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MVR was 25 when he died. He was in charge of 4 air units, directionally, administratively, as well as hiring & firing pilots. I would be hard pressed to think I could have handled that at age 25.

a sad post-script to this story;
At daylight the British sent a couple of their ships to pick up Italian survivors , but they were forced to withdraw from the scene when they came under attack from the Luftwaffe, leaving many Italian sailors still in the water.

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Italian subs and their actions

http://www.regiamarina.net/subs/misc...map_sub_us.htm

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Raymond Collishaw

http://www.constable.ca/colishaw.htm

He was promoted to Air Commodore and took over as Air Officer Commanding, Egypt Group in charge of RAF units in North Africa. He concentrated on strategy and tactics to neutralize the Italian air force and to gain aerial superiority in North Africa. This was a tough challenge considering that his men were flying outdated Gloster Gladiator biplane fighters and Vickers Wellesley bombers..

His pilots were badly outnumbered and outgunned. But he countered these deficiencies with expert advice on aerial tactics, aggressive attacks and trickery. He had only a single modern Hawker Hurricane fighter to use at the front (three others were relegated to training) dubbed "Colly's Battleship". He made the best of it by constantly moving it from base to base and letting the Italians see it. He came up with the idea of making many, single plane attacks on Italian formations to fool the Italians into thinking he had many Hurricanes. The result was that the Italians spread their superior fighters thinly across North Africa, and seriously diluted their strength.

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June 11, 1943: -

Pantelleria surrendered--first time in history that air power won surrender of a ground target. 99th was a key part of the air assault.

http://www.afa.org/magazine/June2002/0602pantel.asp

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Oops....

Dec. 14, 1942
When Lieut. General Mark Clark was on his secret pre-invasion mission to North Africa, as is well known, he lost his pants. The small boat that was taking him off the shore capsized. The General had to shuck his trousers, which were weighted with $18,000 in gold, and swim ashore.
Ashore, he confronted Brigadier General Lyman L. Lemnitzer, who took a surprised look at his superior and quickly gave him his own pants. Shortly thereafter a British Commando captain happened by and snickered to see General Lemnitzer clad only in a blouse. No record was kept of the discussion, but in the end General Lemnitzer walked off in the captain's pants.

http://www.time.com/time/archive/pre...774126,00.html

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