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Old February 19th, 2008, 08:41 PM
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It would seem that some of the Italian troops after the surrender were more aggressive then before it. I hadn't realized that the Germans were ready to kill so many also. Especially on Cephalonia where they shot the Italian commander and around 5,000 troops who resisted.



"The massacre of the Italian troops was prompted by Italy's decision to pull out of its alliance with Nazi Germany in September 1943 after the Allied invasion of Sicily.
Italian troops stationed on the Greek island of Cephalonia resisted subsequent German demands that they surrender and fought a week long battle with a Wehrmacht invasion force.
The Italian resistance was broken after the island was attacked by Stuka dive-bombers. Adolf Hitler ordered that no prisoners should be taken on the island, so the surviving Italian troops were rounded up and slaughtered as retribution for their country's "treachery".
The village of Troianata on Cephalonia was one of at least five locations on the island where the mass killings were carried out. Spiros Vangelatos, a 75-year-old retired English teacher and Cephalonian resident, witnessed the slaughter of about 600 Italian troops outside the village as a boy of 16.
The Italian troops were being held in the village school. Mr Vangelatos said that they expected to be sent back to Italy and spent the night before their murder singing sentimental songs of home.
The following morning they were marched out of the school into a field next to the village and mown down by Wehrmacht machine-gunners.
"Bits of bodies, clothing and lumps of earth were hurled into the air as the machine guns danced on their tripods. It lasted no longer than about three to four minutes," Mr Vangelatos said in an interview with the Tagesspiegel newspaper.
"The dying soldiers collapsed over each other next to a wall at the edge of the field." The villagers were then forced to dump the bodies in a well.
Mr Vangelatos's testimony forms part of the evidence supplied by six surviving Cephalonian residents who witnessed the murders. Last week their names were sent to the Dortmund state prosecutor as potential witnesses in the case.
Others on the island such as Stavros Niforatos, a doctor now aged 95, recalled how he passed a ravine full of butchered Italian troops after delivering a baby in one of the island's homes. "They [the Germans] had slit the Italians' throats with knives," he said. "It was as if they had slaughtered a herd of sheep."
About 3,000 Italian troops avoided the initial German round-up by hiding in caves on Cephalonia while the Wehrmacht laid waste to the island by burning and plundering homes.
Once they were captured they were put aboard ships which were to take them to prison camps in Germany, however the vessels hit mines after leaving harbour and sank.
Those who survived the shipwrecks were taken to the Eastern Front and forced to serve as labourers. Many ended up as Russian prisoners of war after Germany was driven back by the Red Army. More than 200 Greek civilians and resistance fighters were also shot or hanged during the year-long Nazi occupation of the island that ended in 1944.
Attempts by Greek residents of Cephalonia to obtain compensation from post-war Germany for the atrocities committed were rejected by the German government in 1996 as not being in accordance with international law.
The state prosecutors in Dortmund now believe that they will have sufficient evidence to put some of the surviving culprits on trial.
Ulrich Mass, the state prosecutor who is leading the investigation, said he planned to visit Cephalonia this autumn to interview the witnesses.
Earlier attempts by Italy to prosecute the alleged perpetrators were dropped because of a clause in German law which stipulates that its citizens cannot be extradited to stand trial for crimes committed abroad.
Attempts to prosecute the culprits in Germany failed because of lack of evidence that could convict them of murder rather than manslaughter - a charge which automatically expires 15 years after the crime was committed.
"Most of the former Wehrmacht officers involved in the Cephalonia murders are dead and the remainder are very old," Mr Mass said. "We are nevertheless optimistic that we will manage to bring some before the courts before they die."

Germans face charges over massacre on 'Corelli island' - Telegraph
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ACCCKKKKKK....Sorry about the repost LOL.
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Wasn't the events in the movie "Captain Corelli's Mandolin" based on this battle?
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Indeed, the central and most significant scene in the book (and not nearly so good film) is one of these Cephalonia massacres of Italians, all events lead up to, and spring from, the main characters survival due to the sacrifice of another man.

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Wasn't the events in the movie "Captain Corelli's Mandolin" based on this battle?
Yes it was . It really is sad that this happened. It shows that not all Italians were useless losers. Some had great courage and were able to show it.
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Clichés are difficult to get rid off. Some Italians fought with courage. It is not often said.
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The interesting thing is... the italian garrison in Cephalonia could have won the battle. There were plenty of eager italian fighter pilots in their MC.205s at Brindisi, ready to take on the Stukas at any time. Allied High Command, nevertheless, denied them the authorization to take off.

Churchill was one of the of the supporters of grabbing the Aegean islands as soon as possible, but Eisenhower did not agree with the plan. All the italians in mainland could do was watch their brothers being slaughtered by the germans.
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Brave people, these Italians can be (under the right circumstances)...
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Did Eisenhower himself with hold the authorisation for the italians to fly?
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The order was that EVERY italian soldier stay exactly were they were (except explicit orders, such as taking the fleet to Malta). Eisenhower was still suspicious of the italians.
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In other words that were left alone to be slaughtered by the Germans. A tragic mistake to say the least. Thes brave men could have fought under allied colours and their massacre proved that they were certainly not friends with the Germans
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What a coincidence, I was just searching on YouTube for the last battle in Captain Corelli's Mandolin.
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In other words that were left alone to be slaughtered by the Germans. A tragic mistake to say the least. Thes brave men could have fought under allied colours and their massacre proved that they were certainly not friends with the Germans
In hindsight could you fault Eisenhower's not trusting the Italians? They had just betrayed their German Ally and surrendered to the Allies.
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In hindsight could you fault Eisenhower's not trusting the Italians? They had just betrayed their German Ally and surrendered to the Allies.
But let's compare the situation of Germany and Allies by that period. Italy was surrounded, defeated, there was no other way. The changing of sides wasn't some Badoglio's crazyness.

Eisenhower could, at least, have sent some P-38s to back-up the italians on the ground.
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Im not defending him though. But it wasn't his problem . His main concern was still fighting the Germans not about helping or rescuing some Italian troops.
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Hindsight is 20/20 and we weren't there on the decision process. The Big Picture as they say.
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JC, I think he had an obligation to do something. Italian by then where ordered to put down their weapons. Those in Cephalonia did this, and they were only fighting for their lives against the germans. Im my point of view, they were prisioners of war of the Allies, and Allied High Command had responsibility for their welfare.
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Im looking at the surrender doucuments to see if the Allies were obligated to help. So far nothing in regards to that. I did find this though,

" 3. The Italian Supreme Command will take the necessary measures to secure airfields, port facilities, and all other installations against seizure or attack by any of Italy's Allies. The Italian Supreme Command will take the necessary measures to insure Law and Order, and to use its available armed forces to insure prompt and exact compliance with all the provisions of the present instrument. Subject to such use of Italian troops for the above purposes, as may be sanctioned by the Allied Commander-in-Chief, all other Italian Land, Sea and Air Forces will proceed to and remain in their barracks, camps or ships pending directions from the United Nations as to their future status and disposal. Exceptionally such Naval personnel shall proceed to shore establishments as the United Nations may direct. "

It looks like the Italians were obligated to prevent the Germans from taking" airfields, port facilities, and all other installations".
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