How many Americans on the Forum support war with Iraq?

America is a soveirgn country ruled by the American people. Dictatorships like Syria, China and monarchies like Saudi Arabia represent a few people at most yet they get the same vote in the UN as 280 million free Americans. This just doesn't seem right.

Stefan the American people supported a war with Iraq. The US President has a duty of defending America first. If the UN says something is wrong, but the American people believe it to be right well the President must side with the American people. Actually(for all the brits here) I don't believe the UK should have been involved in the war because the majority of people disagreed.

No one has disproven that there are WMD in Iraq. Sadaam has millions of places where he could store them. We haven't even uncovered a fraction of them. After we've liberated Iraq can you people still say that you're against the war, even after all of Sadaams crimes against humanity? People like Sadaam need to be gotten rid of it's just to bad that other people had to die.

While Iraq may not be a democracy yet I believe that Iraq is on it's way. Brad you are right it does seem like it's Bush's friends who are running Iraq.

BTW what's this Dr. Kelley murder theory?

 

Whatever system of government a nation has, the nation has the right to equal representation in the UN. That was what the US agreed to when it joined and what it should stand by now. More to the point, I think you will find loads of sovreign nations who follow the rules laid down by the UN despite the fact that it may not be entirley to their benefit. The point of the UN is that it is a forum for the WHOLE WORLD, it was formed because just because the people of a nation 'think' something is right, it doesn't mean that it is. The aim of the UN is to make sure that if a nation 'thinks' something is right despite the fact that the rest of the world thinks its wrong, they do not go ahead and do it. The USA makes a mockery of the UN and every other agreement it makes.

 

Sarge the soldier supports the United Staes of America in this war. Bush just wants the oil but we need to help the Iraqi's cause their former leader was a psychotic madman. But i support the war and I want the 25 million dollar reward for Saddam Hussein.

 

I am a staunch Republican but I have to say that Dubya did not convince me on this one. And now we are trying to make an Islamic nation a democracy? It will never happen. We have become what the British were in the 19th Century, arrogant and domineering. this will be our downfall and Iraq will be one of many trip ups. I say pull out before this becomes another Somalia.

 

Stefan, you're not American!

No.9

 

I agree with both, Stefan and Brad. More in some things than other, but I generally agree.

I only say that the USA MUST follow UN regulations because USA founded the organisation, ratified it and is a member who has a compromise with it. As simple as that.

I open a chess club, I finance it, I gather all members in my house and tell them what the regulations are. I punish them if they don't follow them, but I break the rules the next day and say: "So wghat?!"

And the US IS a sovereign country. So WAS Iraq. It doesn't matter if one is a decmocracy and the other a dictatorship. That doesn't make them stop being sovereign. An attack would be adequate only if you are under threat. AND WE HAVE SEEN NOW THAT IRAQ WAS ALL BUT A THREAT...

All I had to say.

 

You nailed it on about every point there Stefan.....

Then wouldn't China and India rule the UN?

How was he defending America? Saddam's best weapon's couldn't even hit Israel right. He was no threat.

When you declare war and invade over the thought of WMD, you have to find them to credit your war, it isn't one of those things that you wait to be disproven, it has to be proven.

Democracy will never work world-wide. How do you guys think democracy would work in a place like Saudi Arabia? It would be bad, especially for nations like the USA and Israel, it is rather sad.

 

No.9, I am not a flamingo either, doesn't mean I cant argue. See me as a representative of the rest of the world . That is why I didn't vote.

PzJgr, bang on with that point, how dare the US act in this way, does Bush realise that only the British have the right to be rude, demening, offensive, yada yada yada abroad!

 

WOT!!! JUMPING CRAWDADS - NOT THE FLAMINGO!!!

 

I completely agree on that subject. Democracy IS NOT universal, nor any government is. The USA has always been wrong in wanting all the world to have a democracy. Democracy is not bad at all but it simply doesn't work everywhere.

And yes, the USA signed agreements in the UN which specify that a country's régime doesn't matter to take decisions that concern THE WHOLE WORLD.

I would agree on that. The USA wasn't in mortal danger because of Iraq, since it coudln't even defend itself nor attack anyone! A valid point could be WMD being sold to terrorist groups. But we'll believe UNTIl we SEE those 'thousands of WMD..."

And I agree on the thing that Saddam didn't have to be where he was. But that responsability concerned ONLY to the Iraqi people, or in an extreme case, one of its neighbours.

 

UNTILL YOU SPEND SOME TIME BOOTS ON THE GROUND IN IRAQ OR STAN DONT BE TOO QUICK TO JUDGE and beleive zero what ya see in the media..... its real easy to be an armchair general or politico but try and see it from the grunts eye view... bet ya cant or wont..... General Sherman once said "WAR IS HELL" and he was right but i wana add another part to that.... "ACTUAL COMBAT IS A MOTHER&%^#K$"

 

Damn skippy Mortman. Too bad many more returning veterans are not voicing that exact statement. Media is the majority now and everyone believes what they see. I was in the First Gulf war as well as Panama (Just Cause) and supporting missions in El Salvador and Honduras. Nothing compared to Iraq but enough to understand more so than those who have not worn the boots. Here's to you and those like you.

 

Amen to all that Bro. Also, I have a good friend who served in El Salvador sometime after his participation in Grenada. Said friend almost lost his life there when an enemy ""soldier"" tried to ambush him when he went to go investigate an ""abandoned"" house-which seemed too peaceful. As he stepped inside, he heard a movement-couldn't see anything since it was so dark, and heard a thunk noise-the noise of a large knife or bayonet sticking into wood.

What had happened was that as he walked inside, whomever was there was hiding near the ntranceway, and thought my friend Adon.V. would be an easy kill. Adon managed to use his own knife on the guy and as he told me, it was nothing but pure training and instinct, that saved his life that day. It turned out that the blade the enemy tried to use on him, was a WWI American Springfield Bayonet unit marked to the "Rock of the Marne" (Audie Leon Murphy's old outfit in WWII) Division. My friend still had this trophy ;-D