Totally UN - BE - LIEV - ABLE!!!

INSANITY ON THE RISE IN AMERICA...
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070523/ap_on_he_me/blood_gay_men_2

 

Yes, well, anybody can lie, can´t they?

The problem in the US, I guess, is that people are paid money for the blood they donate- right? Many of those who are in the risque groups need money so that makes it more possbile that the blood could be dangerous. I don´t know if it can be changed anymore ( the payment thing ), but for example in Finland it all depends on donating for free- which makes it less possible that there is diseased people donating. Of course everything is tested but the danger is a lot lower here. Any other countries where money is not paid for blood donation? I know there are but just not sure....

 

Not true. Donating blood is just that, a donation. Now I know of places that pay for blood plasma. This is totally different than giving blood.
http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/15272/donating_plasma_for_money.html

Also, the blood collected is tested prior to being delivered to medical blood banks.

 

Yes, when I have donated blood I did not receive any financial compensation.

 

Ok, thanx for correction. My mistake.

 

Britain has the following restrictions for donating blood:

https://secure.blood.co.uk/c11_cant.asp

However, I can't give blood because:

 

There are still places where you are paid for blood plasma and are a favorite place for homeless people and alcoholics to make alittle money. Hepatitis used to be spread this way and perhaps it still is. All the staff can do is ask questions and hope for honest answers, however if blood is how they make a living then they can't be too fussy about who they take it from, unfortunitly.

In the 1970's when I lived in Houston, wino's used to line up every morning to donate blood and get their next bottle of wine. I did not work there but passed by several places like this on the way to work.

 

I'm not sure why you think banning gays from donating blood is all that bad. It isn't discrimination, the decision is based on sound medical science.

We seem to be disagreeing on a couple things these days, eh wilconqr. No hard feelings?

Peppy >>> wants purebloods

 

Given in the US that the overwhelming majority of HIV cases are IV drug users and homosexual males it probably is not an unreasonable prohibition; especially considering the difficultly of detection of HIV in the early stages.
On the times I've given blood in the past I usually got the third degree over having extensively travelled overseas with the military. For some reason, the military seems to go many of the armpits of the universe where disease is rampant.....
Malaria regions? If you had to take malaria prolaxsis pills no donation for three years afterwards. Exposure to some malaria areas pills or no, no dontation for x years.
Meds or shots (the military gives lots of the later) may bar you.
Ever get Hepatitis? Forget giving.
Recent tatoo? possibly get barred.
Hemophiliac? No go there.
Lots of things can restrict giving blood. The prohibitions err on the side of caution and for good reason: Somebody could get sick or die otherwise.

 

You said it brother..........Panama, El Salvador, Honduras over to the arid areas (but many flies) Israel and Egypt

 

I don't think it's a bad thing at all. I'm in total rapport with you Peppy! Before the term A.I.D.S. was born the term G.R.I.D., for Gay Related Immune Deficiency, was used. Only as the demographics of the sickness changed were medical officials forced to re-term the disease. However, the homosexual lifestyle continues to be a major causer of H.I.V. and A.I.D.S.. It's the continuation of an "agenda" by the homosexual community that would serve only to endanger all of humankind that I find Totally UN-BE-LIEV-ABLE!

 

Back when I was going to Texas State Technical College (yes, I have some educashun;-)) anyway, when I was a poor colllege student (still poor for that matter and not going to college) anyway, when I was in college, some out of area students were lucky to get an assigned paying job on campus. Some jobs you could earn enough to pay for your studies, and others, would pay enough to just barely eke you by--by the week. Well, I was unlucky in that the job I had, took only a total of several hours to do per pay period. This meant that I made only $25.00 a week. I could afford some gas for the car, few groceries and maybe renting a movie or two; every so often. This was back during March 1993 to May 1994 - the length of the course I went through.

Anyway, my point is, is that once in awhile, I actually had toime to go donate blood--and yes, I went to those places that paid money as I needed it to survive on. The pay was something like this:

1st time doner got $17.50.
2nd time doner got $7.00.
3rd time doner got $12.50.
4th time donor got: $15.00. Then the pay schedule would repeat. I hear the pay is much higher these days and some places you can even get about $300.00 extra a month but, the catch is that your not donating the rarer part of the blood? plasma? and can only do it I think 2-3 times a month?

You could donate once every 3-4 days. Hell, if I could have gotten away with it, I would have been there daily. I managed to get there maybe 4 times a month depending on how intense my studies were at the moment.

Anyway, getting what money we could meant that we could go eat at a restaurant once in awhile, or to shop for better food, or even come back home on a weekend about every 6-8 weeks.

 

I am a regular benevolent blood donor. By this I mean every so often I go to the blood bank and leave each time 400cc (24 cu.in. for those stuck in a rut ), 2-4 times a year depending on my convenience.

The minimum accepted is three month intervals. What I get from this is my deposits accrue to my own bank account (no interest!), from which I can draw for transfusions I may need, or give away to people I indicate. Also I get exempted from charges when using the NHS services here.

Also I have to live a clean life, no casual sex partners, no drugs, no tatoos, report on dental care, etc.

 

Anyone for black pudding?

 

When I go donate blood my joke is I say I go to the black pudding (or local equivalent thereof) factory. The people in the blood bank hate this, but as they need my blood they have to put up with me :clown:

Or is it "they have to put with me up"?

 

Good to see plenty of Homophobics on this thread....

Where's that daft penguin when you need him?

 

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I could only see one.

Cheers,
Adam.

 

There are a few people here who I'm sure are homophobic (for whatever stupid reasons), which I don't agree with. With respect to the blood donation policy, I agree with it. It about reducing the risk of tainted blood. Even heterosexuals who engage in anal sex are restricted from donating. I live on North Halted Ave in Chicago, if I had a problem with gays or lesbians, I certainly wouldn't survive here.

Peppy >>> doesn't judge

 

Agreed

 

Love the sinner but hate the sin.