Thanks a lot. Appreciate that you have taken the time to explain this for me. I live to learn and don't mind admitting when I'm wrong. LOL that's a lot of the time.
I was referring to the vehicle in post 738 on this thread not the Grizzly, so the RAM had two distinct AA variants though one was just a prototype. http://www.ww2f.com/quiz-me/20499-name-tank-30.html But I would have said a Mk I too because of the clearly visible secondary turret installation and side doors so TA got it right. The RAM looks like having a "fan club" similar to tigers attepting to trace every single chassis built (think there were a slightly more RAMs than Tigers produced) look at this http://www.ramtank.ca/ram_mk1.htm
Thanks for the links. I see now that you were correct as well. Here is another good page from that same site showing the Sexton (Ram AA variant). http://www.ramtank.ca/ram_experiments.htm I think the prototypes were the original 124 that were designed on the Ram chassis. After reviewing the prototypes the Brits wanted more of them delivered, but built on the Grizzly chassis. quotes below are from the ramtank.ca site: "A pilot model of the Ram tank came off the assembly line on 30 Jun 41. The U.S. War Department had expressed keen interest in the Canadian-built tank and requested that one be loaned to the U.S. Ordnance for study. Canada agreed to send the pilot model to the Aberdeen Proving Grounds, Maryland, to undergo trials and the tank was shipped to the U.S. on 18 Jul 41. After undergoing tests it was returned to Montreal during October, 1941. A schedule of delivery prepared on 26 Jul 41 promised the following output during the balance of 1941. This schedule was based on the assumption that transmissions and engines would be available as required:- During July - 2 complete tanks (the one at Aberdeen and one practically complete) During August - 3 complete tanks During September - 7 complete tanks During October - 17 complete tanks During November - 22 complete tanks During December - 48 complete tanks Total for 1941 - 99" "By February, 1942, fifty Ram I tanks had been assembled and were either at, or on route to, destinations. Ten had been retained in Canada and the remaining forty shipped to the United Kingdom. This was the total number of Ram I tanks built and production was now concentrated upon the Ram II."
Ram, I believe the RAM was not a very good tank, but an excellent APC for the Canadians during September - November 1944. They helped the infantry keep up with the armor in those muddy fields of Holland. During the fighting of December - February, before the British crossed the Rhine, the Ram APC also helped to secure the forests on the West side of the Rhine during Operation Veritable.
Amazing story of WWII armor. WHile in Bosnia, Sept 98 - March 1999, I ran across several different WWII vehicles in storage sites for the Serbs, Bosnians and Croats. T34/85s, SU 85s, M4A3E8s, M36 Jackson with a cover over the turret, and two M4A3 hulls on a firing range we used near our base camp. What was amazing though was I was able to show some soldiers the vehicles in the Squad Leader game I had with us over there. It has many AFVs from WWII that are used in the small scenarios.
Are you sure it was SU-85? There were some SU-100, I don't know about 85's. There were also some M18 that were used during war. Oddly, after the war there were also lot of german ww2 AFV in Yugoslavia, but they were sent to Albania as aid.
Yes, SU 85. Actually measured the gun. Also, our interpreter stated he knows it is an 85mm on that vehicle.
T. A. Gardner guessed the last tank correctly, so he is actually in control at the moment, although he hasn't yet posted a pic. If it were up to me, I'd say go ahead. 5 days have passed without a pic.
Wow that was short and sweet. I was still debating with myself if it was an actual German Heavy Tank or a captured one belonging to another nation. I refreshed the page and Joe had already answered. Apparently this tank was used for German propaganda purposes. Way to go! Joe
Three where sent to Norway, one was destroyed at Oslo I think and the other two returned to Germany and where used as parade ornaments. Something like that anyway. This should be an easy one.