Name that tank!

Last guess armored car?

If not going to wait till tomorrow im going to bed cya!

 

ok - see you tomorrow - if no one else takes a try i'll chuck out some hints

 

Obviously the bastard child of a Pz II with a Sdkfz 222.

On a more serious note Saurer used to play around with that sort of weel and track configuration but can't find that one

Saurer RR-7

 

They toyed with that idea in New Zealand as well. May I present the Schofield Tank:



Just barely better looking than the Bob Semple, but the sad thing is the BS was probably a more effective tank.

 

You're a lot closer than you think with Saurer

And my apologies if i misled anyone, but i believe now the gun was a 20mm not a 37mm as i stated before - details are a bit sketchy on this tank!

 

Does look like german inspired turret

 

Apparently based on the Panzer 1 but the turret was all new - probably right about german inspired though

 

For another clue, I can confirm it was Austrian

 

Found some text of the Sauer RK Ausf A weel and track that is reported as "having a body much like the Sdkfz 222" but no picure.

 

I have the Sauer Lj-9 but couldn't confirm that with any other source so I think you get it with RK - it sounds very much like the same vehicle - good job, your turn

p.s. there's a rumour about a Sauer RK7, but everything on the web just points back to the saurer RR7 APC so i think that may be a misnomer?

P.P.S. I'm thinking about starting a thread just about wheel-and-track vehicles - it seems there isn't one - anyone know if there is and i just haven't found it?

 

I have seen it referred to as RK9 as well but Lj-9 could be the right designation.

First tankettes and now weel and tracks? Noooooooo !!! at least tankettes are fun W&T are alnost inevitably ugly.

A side view would be easy but a front view is a bit less obvious.

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the hull looks like an L6 but i haven't seen the twin MG turret version

Ah - apparently was the second prototype L6 (1936)

I found a name finally - Fiat M6T

 

You obviously found it

At the time a 6 tonner was considered a medium so it's an M6 not an L6, and the official manufacturarer is (like all Italian WW2 tanks) Ansaldo not Fiat.
There was a huge number of variations of the design that started as a modified CV 33 and ended up as the L6, the Army kept refusing them as useless until more or less forced to accept the L6, at one time Ansaldo, in desperation, even attempted to sell the chassis it had alrrady built as agricultural tractors.
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Good work, over to you.

 

Thanks for the extra info - i never really understood the relationship (or not) between Fiat and Ansaldo as they are often used interchangeably.
I also found a lot of info about one of the prototypes that led to the L6s having a 37mm gun mounted in the hull - that sounds to me as if people are confusing it with the 11/39 or its prototypes - after all it was only a 2-man machine - any views?

I wonder if they were any good as farm tractors?

Also as far as the designation of the Sauer wheel-and-track goes, RK makes some sense as their designations were mostly R*, perhaps Ulrich or another German speaker could throw some insight onto what Lj could stand for if it wasn't just a random letter combination - The L for leichter makes some sense but I have no ideas if the 'J' could be something logical? Maybe Jaeger? Anyone any ideas?

Here's a fairly simple one for the next question;

 

I believe that is the French ARL 44 heavy tank.

 

You got it B 'n' G - well spotted - your turn next

 

Something better than views .. photos!!, the road to the M11/39 has two "missing links" that fit the description, the Carro Cannone 36 and the Carro assalto 8t. There was also a version of the 36 (more related to the L6 as evolution really "forks" with the 8t towards the M11/39 series) that had the 37 in the turret.

Fiat provided the engines, Ansaldo built the tanks, as farm tractors they would work but with a really horrible fuel comsumption.

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Thanks TOS - never seen those before i guess they squeezed a third man in somewhere!

Incidentally i guess 'Rottura' means 'breakthrough' - my dictionary has it as breakdown!

 

While we're waiting for the General's question, how about this rare fellow?

 

As of right now, i am not sure about that tank, but here is mine