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Captured SS General?

Discussion in 'Information Requests' started by BLACK-SUN, Sep 14, 2008.

  1. BLACK-SUN

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    Hello everybody I’m new to the forum, my name is Aidan Courtney and I live in Manchester, England. I’m looking for anybody who has any information on a certain SS general, who towards the end of the war was captured and interrogated by the allies. He was in charge of a secret underground military research installation which was set up with in the confines of a converted mine in the Sudeten mountain range. I believe the SS-General in question to be one Jacov Sporrenberg (I hope I have spelt his name correctly) He is mentioned in this video on Youtube 5.10 into the clip, hear is the link so that you can have a look. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sABpGFzxebQ
    Does anybody have any information on this individual because he is not listed on the SS lists on Wikipedia - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_SS_personnel , thank you in advance for your combined help on this topic.
     
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    Black Sun (occult symbol)

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    A depiction of the "Black Sun" the design of which bases primarily on the shape of the Wewelsburg sun wheel mosaic in the "Obergruppenführer"-Hall. (SS Generals' Hall)


    The term Black Sun (German Schwarze Sonne), also referred to as the Sonnenrad (the German for "Sun Wheel"), is a symbol of esoteric or occult significance, notable for its usage in Nazi mysticism. Today, it may also be used in occult currents of Germanic neopaganism, and in Irminenschaft or Armanenschaft-inspired esotericism.

    The shape of the symbol as it is used within Germanic mysticist esotericism and Neo-Nazism today is based primarily on the design of a floor mosaic at the castle of Wewelsburg (built 1603), a Renaissance castle located in the northwest of North Rhine-Westphalia, Germany.
    During the Third Reich the castle was to become a representative and ideological center of the order of the SS. Heinrich Himmler, the leader of the SS, wanted to establish the "Center of the New World". A focus of the actual SS-activities at the castle were archaeological excavations in the surrounding region and studies of Germanic early history.
    The mosaic is placed in the ground floor room of the North-Tower of the castle in the so called Obergruppenführersaal ("Obergruppenführer hall", completed 1939-1943) The "Obergruppenführer" (literally: "Upper-Group-Leaders") were the highest ranking SS-generals. It is not known if the SS had a special name for the ornament nor if they attributed a special meaning to the ornament. In their study of sense characters the sun apart was interpreted as "the strongest and most visible expression of god", the number twelve as significant for "the things of the target and the completion" mosaic at Wewelsburg itself is dark green on a whitish/greyish marble floor. Probably a golden disc was placed in the middle of the ornament originally
    Instead of Christianity, Himmler wanted a moral doctrine raised from the pre-Christian pagan Germanic heritage. Cultic ceremonies and rituals were part of the everyday life of the SS. The Wewelsburg was to be a center of a "kind-accordant" religion (German: "artgemäße" Religion)
    The North-Tower of the castle was to be the center of a planned circular estate, 1.27 kilometres in diameter. The architects called the complex the "Center of the World" from 1941 on.
    The North-Tower, which had survived a ruin after 1815, only assumed importance for Himmler starting in the autumn of 1935. In the process of Himmler establishing the castle as a cult site (an ideological and religious center of the SS), probably the tower was to serve the highest-ranking SS leaders as a center for their race cult which had accentuated religious aspects. Nothing is known about the possible way and the kind of arrangement of designated ceremonies in the tower—the redesigned rooms were never used.According to the architects, the axis of the North-Tower was to be the actual "Center of the World".






    SS architect Hermann Bartels presented a first draft of plans that envisioned using the North Tower on three different levels:
    • Where primary a cistern was a vault after the model of Mycenaean domed tombs was created which probably was to serve for some kind of commemoration of the dead.
    • A "columned hall" was to be constructed on the ground floor for the SS-Obergruppenführer. The sun wheel–shaped ornament, later called the "Black Sun".
    • Finally, the upper floors were to be completed as a meeting hall for the entire corps of the SS Gruppenführer.
    However, a meeting in the first floor mosaic room never occurred—the building work at the room was stopped in 1943.
    In 1945, when the "final victory" didn't materialize, the castle was partially blasted and set on fire by the SS but the two redesigned rooms in the North-Tower stayed intact.
     
  3. BLACK-SUN

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    Yes you’re correct, but what does this have to do with the SS general in question from the video? Is there any relation? Although other forum members might be interested in knowing about the order of the black sun, I feel you have shown more interest in my choice of username, than answering my question. I chose to call myself black sun because at the time I couldn’t think of anything and the order of the back sun was what I was currently researching. Does anybody have any information on SS General Jacov Sporrenberg or images such as the portrait photograph shown in the youtube video?
     
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    Thank you very much for these links; it seems that we have found our general. I find it strange that in the video they say he was in charge of the mine complex, although in this new information provided by yourself it catalogues his career and there is no mention of him being posted at the installation in question. Thank you for finding these referances thow.
     
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    Glad they helped somewhat.
    Never trust a specifically UFO or Conspiracist associated source mate, far too many axes to grind in those fields, far too much bending facts to fit a hypothesis, a pet theory, or the 'entertainment' factor.
    He may have been involved, if there was a 'secret project' to be involved in, but you can rarely draw any real conclusions from a TV documentary.
    Having said that, the written (and spoken, and photographed) record naturally has gaps. omissions, & inconsistencies, the trouble being some see those gaps as spaces to insert their own unsubstantiated opinion.

    Cheers,
    Adam.
     

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