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Discussion in 'WWII Today' started by gregc, Jan 3, 2010.

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  1. USMC

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    Totally agree with you. For the people who say she was a coward: What the heck else was she supposed to do? If your a Jew in the Low Countries during WWII there is very little you can do.
     
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  2. gregc

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    Wow thanks for that brndirt1! That is a good question to pose to people like that, They also seem to think she was weird and a lesbian because of the fact that she was curious about her body, I serioulsy doubt that these people have ever read it except for one of them who clearly just skimmed it or didnt really read it all.
     
  3. cl0wn

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    surely the fact that it is a diary and wasn't written with the intention to be shared has been lost on some people. that she was able to to even think about her sexuality during such termoil, and going through puberty, you think would give youngsters something to relate to.

    i wonder if they have shared their opinions with their grandparents or parents?
     
  4. gregc

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    hmm i wonder that too also I wonder what they would think
     
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    Anne had her "boy friend" day dreams, they are evident in the diaries. She was no "lesbian", nor was she "weird". With the exception that most if not all "teenage" girls are weird to the male looking in from the outside.

    The Frank family of four, two daughters and their parents were joined by another four people as well: the Van Pels family of three, and Fritz Pfeffer (the family dentist and friend). This put eight people into that little hidden section. They remained there from July of 1942 until August of 1944.

    Try and figure out that "family dynamic" just for fun.
     
     
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    I wish I could disagree with you but I cannot. Kids today hardly seem to not care about things like the holocaust or Anne Frank. I sometimes frown upon the youth of today.
     
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  7. gregc

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    I agree sox, not all kids are like this, but it seems there are increasing amount of them now it seems :(

    edit: yeah brndirt people are always curious about their body or concerned about how they look in front of someone does not make them weird at all, and I fully agree with you they wouldnt last long if they were in her and her families problem
     
  8. sox101

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    I think most kids today would care more about facebook or the latest gossip not about what happened in world war II. Most of the kids I know practically know nothing about world war II. I guess it is a different generation so you cannot blame kids it is just a different time.
     
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    I just had a look and it would seem to come under a Racist/hate violation under Facebooks, 'report this group' terms. And what a group of IGNORANT YOUNG PEOPLE:mad: extremly ill informed, and very poorly educated to gleam from the book the views that they did sad thing is I found another group with an even sicker title:(
     
  10. gregc

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    I know its just horrible really, atleast a few people were brave to post comments against this crap.
     
  11. luketdrifter

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    The thing to remember is that these groups are there to either join or not join, give attention to or ignore. The Anne Frank group is ridiculous at best, disgusting for sure but Facebook is not going to pull the plug on it unless they start to post things are are blatantly inflammatory and racist. You just have to ignore it. There are groups and pages for things that make my blood boil but complaining about them just isn't going to work. You have to ignore it and just know that there are a whole bunch of jackasses in the world.
     
  12. sommecourt

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    You could email a complaint to their College Principal:

    principal
     
  13. alieneyes

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    If they are posting this garbage using the school's PCs they are in violation of the school's regulations regarding PC use.

    Check here under their "computer policy form"

    CCVI Home Page

    That should also be brought to the attention of the school principal as suggested by Paul
     
  14. cl0wn

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    absolutely, being 34, i was taught very little of WW2 at school. kids of today can post anything, throughout the world, at the click of a button... for most it's a throwaway comment that only the likes of those like ourselves would take offense at, unfortunately the amount of people who do take offense at this type of post will get fewer and fewer. it's up to the teachers and the sillabus they teach, and those of us who have been handed this information by our elders, to make youngsters aware of what happened. modern teaching is still full of what happened during the greeks and romans, yet events that happened 70 years ago are brushed under the carpet in case we offend our european friends.
     
  15. sox101

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    Everything you said I agree with. I did not get a lot of world war II at my school either. I just forced myself to find out more about what happened why it happened and all of the rest. I would have to say it is has become a life long mission.
     
  16. gregc

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    yes Luke you are completley correct, and I agree clown more kids should learn about it so they never forget it. Although i dont know what emailing the principal would do though they are probably doing it outside of school anyways, so she cant do anything anyways, I guess we should just ignore it like Luke says.
     
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    Unfortunately, there is really very little to be done. I'm sure that you are correct when you say that much of the negative view is because the kids don't want to read the book. As a former teacher, I know that, for a variety of reasons, WW2 is not taught very well, but I think there is a great deal of history that is not taught very well. Part of the blame goes to ever increasing curriculum demands, part of the blame goes on the heavy reliance on test scores, part of the blame goes on teachers who themselves don't know a great deal about history, and part of the blame goes on being in high school.

    I remember high school only vaguely (it was a long time ago for me), but I remember resisting much of what I was taught in many subjects. It was only when I got older and exposed to more thinking people that my interest soared. Although, I must admit that I did a great deal of reading on my own that was slanted toward history in general.

    My advice is to ignore those posts. Attempting to rally against them will only encourage others to come out in support, just because. You can only control your own beliefs. If the posters don't get a lot of play, chances are it will just die off. Continue to educate yourself and talk to those who are open to it.

    Some of those who are posting these thoughtless things will undoubtedly later realize how foolish they were and come to regret it. Others will just become like so many others, and rarely give it another thought. Those of us who enjoy learning about the past in general and WW2 in particular will always be in the minority. It's just the way it is.
     
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  18. gregc

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    very insightful post LRusso, yes people that are interested in history will always be the minority it seems and your completley right, its best to ignore them, although I wish Facebook would smarten up on groups like this though, wishful thinking at best.
     
  19. sommecourt

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    WW2, and indeed WW1, is part of the National Curriculum in the UK. WW2 is even taught in primary schools.
     
  20. urqh

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    clown please expand on your in case we offend our european friends statement.
     
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