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  1. LRusso216

    LRusso216 Graybeard Staff Member

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    Came across this article about the latest in the trial of suspected camp guard John Demjanuk.
    Documents suggest Demjanjuk link to 2nd Nazi camp
    A German historian on Wednesday presented evidence at the trial of John Demjanjuk that suggested he worked as a guard at the Nazis' Flossenbuerg concentration camp.
    Matthias Meissner of Germany's Federal Archive showed the Munich state court original documents from Flossenbuerg listing a man called "Demianiuk" and "Demenjuk" as a guard there in October 1943.
    CapeCodTimes.com - Associated Press Wire
     
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    mikebatzel Dreadnaught

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    The verdict is in.
    Demjanjuk convicted over Nazi camp deaths - Yahoo! News--

    Five years was certainly less than I expected him to get, though he probably won't make it to his release.
     
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    brndirt1 Saddle Tramp

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    Five years does seem a bit short, but as "mike" mentions the old guy probably won't live out his term. I'm personally simply glad the whole deal is over.
     
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    brndirt1 Saddle Tramp

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    I was pleased to hear that a decision had been reach in his case, however I was displeased to find that the man will be free while awaiting a decision on his appeal.

    (MUNICH) — A German court has ordered John Demjanjuk released pending an appeal of his conviction as an accessory to murder at a Nazi death camp.

    Presiding Judge Ralph Alt made the announcement as he wrapped up his verdict Thursday in the 91-year-old's trial. It could take six months or more for an appeal verdict to come.

    Goto:

    Demjanjuk Ordered Released Pending Appeal - TIME
     
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  5. rkline56

    rkline56 USS Oklahoma City CG5

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    His Buddies at the Auto Plant probably thought he was just another mild mannered or maybe medium mannered, hard drinking (but that's cool) line worker.
    I get that guys had to work in the camps. Some of them just seemed to enjoy it way too much and take it to extremes.
    I always like the stories about a prison guard that helped out the inmates with food, light duty or just a random kind gesture to
    maybe give the inmates the motivation to keep going on. Like Sergeant Schultz - "I know nothing."
     
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    rkline56 USS Oklahoma City CG5

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    Soviets did the same S### for 80-100 years and no one did any time for that.
    Maybe a visit to the wall in Lubyanka if they didn't meet their quota.
    I highly recommend Solzenhitsyn's - "Gulag Archipelago".

    In the same vein, Victor Frankl's classic - "Man's Search for Meaning" delves deeper into
    the dark recesses that "Schindler's List" touched on.

    If you get a chance, watch Mark Herman's - "The Boy in the Striped Pajamas".
    A very touching tragedy. Great locations and cinematography.
     
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    Can't his Soviet war record be looked into or are such records not available anymore? I'm sure at this point they must have looked into it though.
     
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    LRusso216 Graybeard Staff Member

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    There was a brief report about this on ABC News this evening that tried to raise the issue of how long should these hunts and trials go on. My won reaction? As long as there are still people alive who participated. They also mentioned the difference between Germany, which has been diligent in looking for these fugitives, and Austria, which is markedly less diligent.
     
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    I have been hearing about this guy at least for 20 years........it is pretty nice if you can live out most of your life free before you get convicted for something you did at the beginning of your life.........as my parents always tracked who was being hunted by the "Nazi Hunters" I have become amazed at how long after they find them that it takes forever to finally get them prosecuted. I remember some in Argentina I think that were tracked by television reporters for years before they finally got arrested. Then years later convicted.
     
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    mikebatzel Dreadnaught

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    Looks like this saga has finally reached it's completion.
    Former Nazi guard Demjanjuk dead at 91: German police - Yahoo! News
     
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    GRW Pillboxologist WW2|ORG Editor

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    Good.
     
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    Saw this myself, but while I'm not dismayed at his demise I am a bit saddened that he got to live to the really ripe old age of 91 and not brought to justice before.
     
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    Another one is gone! He lived only a few houses away from a friend of mine!
     
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    I heard about on the news .
     
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