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Discussion in 'The Stump' started by brndirt1, Jan 17, 2012.

  1. gunbunnyb/3/75FA

    gunbunnyb/3/75FA Member

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    the funny thing is,that the chinese factories where they pump out the legal dvds, are the same ones that pump out the clones as well, so they will just ignore the laws like they do now anyway, and why not, we don't do any thing to punish them if they get cought.
     
  2. Skipper

    Skipper Kommodore

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    Now we are steering away :D
     
  3. brndirt1

    brndirt1 Saddle Tramp

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    And on the lighter side...

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  4. Radar4077

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    This has been going on for a couple months now. I'm not too worried about wikipedia stuff since I never use it for research because I don't think it's 100% trustworthy, but YouTube could also be shut down. Some featured videos I've heard are of the golden globe awards literally ripped from tv screens. Some people actually filming it with a camera pointed at the tv. Criegslist has also shut down due to protest. I've been heading since all these major interwebz corporations are protesting that the bill is getting a better chance to be vetoed. But judging on these past few years, I'm sure the gov't will go through with it anyway.
     
  5. Poppy

    Poppy grasshopper

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    Firefox has a black screen (cool) with an option to "take action now". I want to be heard, but don't trust the info they want me to put down in order to be counted. Who puts their name, city, address, zip and email address out there for any hack to pull off the computer? And why do they need that kind of info? Wouldn't a "no" vote from an IP address be enough to vote on the issue?
     
  6. formerjughead

    formerjughead The Cooler King

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    Here is what they seem to be missing: If you take the recreational aspects out of the internet (i.e. Advertising, gaming site, social networking, etc) then it ceases to be it's own money making entity and it becomes an 800lb Gorilla that government and big business has to feed if they want to have it at their disposal. With out the Interweb, and all it offers, there is no need for personal computers, smart phones, Ipads, Ipods and all that jazz. You take away the ability to do online research and then Government is going to have to start funding public libraries again so kids can do homeowork.

    I think the whole Piracy Bill is nothing but a sham started by: The Phone Company, Encyclopedia Salesmen and the Postal Service.
     
  7. CAC

    CAC Ace of Spades

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    Hadnt thought of that...and you are so right.
    Waaaaaayyy too much money to be lost...and plenty of large companies with the dosh to fight it...
    Should ne interesting to see how big brother they actually want to get...maybe they dont even know yet.
     
  8. luketdrifter

    luketdrifter Ace

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  9. Skipper

    Skipper Kommodore

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    Thanks for posting this link Luke.
     
  10. luketdrifter

    luketdrifter Ace

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    I should have added, this is NOT the bill...this is a break down of how it could affect the internet. The bill itself is available online though
     
  11. Skipper

    Skipper Kommodore

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    I know but the article is well written and shows all aspects and provides enough information for those who want to know more.
     
  12. TiredOldSoldier

    TiredOldSoldier Ace

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    IMO a very unsatisfactory outcome, putting SOPA on hold for a few months (until the outrage cools off ?) while keepin PIPA on the agenda is no victory at all.
    I'm already seeing US companies getting hurt in the "move to the cloud" by lack of privacy protection in USA legislation, that is perceived as "US firms cannot be trusted to protect your data", nobody in the industry is likely to forget that (theoretically NATO?) electronic intelligence assets were used for industrial espionage to favour US companies.

    What the legislators seem not to understand is that the internet is now a global asset, the fact that root DNS systems are US operated is incidental, any attempt by a single state to mess around with them will accelerate the trend of removing them to less unstable legislative environments. AFAIK, but I haven't looked at the technical details (and they don't mean much anyway as the gap between legalese and technical standards is open to interpretation), but implementation of the bills could well break DNSSEC so preventing a much needed piece of Internet security and as a result put all internet commerce at risk, a much bigger economic issue than copyright.

    Most people don't understand nor care to understand technology, forcing these sort of issues into the open by attempted legislation may well fire back as the man in the street finally realizes how much routine "electronic intelligence gathering" is actually already going on. Most of our actions leave an "electronic trail" and govermnent "control freaks" happily get their hands on them (usually presenting legislators with a "fait acomplit" they have to rubberstamp or be accused of helping terrorism, pornography, tax evasion or whatever is the current boo word) IMO the 1984 timetable is currently off by just a few years unless we reverse the trend.
     
  13. Victor Gomez

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    Opinionated here diving in....if we allow the legitimate control and licensing of the internet, it will join the regulated like cable tv, satellite tv, cell phones, etc with fees we will be charged for this and for that........................for example if you watch tv now you don't get pure television entertainment just because you pay for it.........you get commercials that are supposed to pay for the program, you get television paid programming you did not want on your menu.......you have to pay extra for things that are not regular on the network or you don't get to see it. With cell phones you get speech in very limited time amounts unless you pay extra for time, texting, games apps etc. All these things are so legitimately licensed so that they can charge you every time you turn around with someones new app, invention, service, access, time and I could go on and on. The blessing of the internet is the number of things that are not under such control and is ever expanding daily. Sorry I think our regulated industries charge us to death with things that should not be charged for and want to do likewise with the internet. I say let it be free and unregulated for quite a while until the new developments begin to die down......then we can talk about things. I am even hopeful that if the net gets big enough and well wired into communities it will get cheaper, and begin replacing some of the above services that we are so overcharged for and of course that is exactly what their lobbyists are fighting to bring to an end......the threat against their overcharging. If the internet can supply it cheaper that is free enterprise.......but oh how that hurts the feelings of those now stuffing their pockets with our money.

    I think the internet is much like radio and televsion that used to be free..............yes there was a time when radio and television was free and what happened to that.....we let our guard down and now we get less choice unless you pay a lot of money to get it bunched to you in the form of satellite radio, cable or satellite tv. We used to have a great deal of variety for free.....now we get next to nothing for free, perhaps a channel or two, limited FM stations. We are getting double charged when they still run commercials, and we pay for paid commercial programming that is all over our menu. There is now satellite radio doing the same thing with charges. Once they started extracting money from us for what used to be free....we should have the option at least of no commercials and we don't. It simply provided them more ways to keep our money. I am against anything that repeats this or introduces it to the internet. Their first step in is a method of control..........then everything they have done before will follow.
     
  14. brndirt1

    brndirt1 Saddle Tramp

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    Here in America proper it is more advisable to send your Senators and Congressman/woman an email to either support or refute the bill. Why you would need to send them you personal information is a head-scratcher unless it because your IP puts you outside of the US and you don't have a connection to anyone in D.C.?
     
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    Found another cutie concerning the blackout.

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  16. belasar

    belasar Court Jester

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    A few years back I gave away my 20 year old encyclopedia, I wonder if Goodwill will give them back? :)
     

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