Welcome to the WWII Forums! Log in or Sign up to interact with the community.

Was the Pearl Harbor attack flawed ?

Discussion in 'Pearl Harbor' started by steverodgers801, Dec 7, 2013.

  1. GunSlinger86

    GunSlinger86 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 18, 2013
    Messages:
    1,152
    Likes Received:
    45
    Why didn't the Japanese try to invade and occupy Pearl Harbor with assault troops? Would it have been feasible?
     
  2. Takao

    Takao Ace

    Joined:
    Apr 27, 2010
    Messages:
    10,104
    Likes Received:
    2,576
    Location:
    Reading, PA
    That dead horse has been thoroughly pulverized over in the What If section of Axis History Forum.
     
  3. OpanaPointer

    OpanaPointer I Point at Opana Staff Member WW2|ORG Editor

    Joined:
    Jun 5, 2008
    Messages:
    19,193
    Likes Received:
    5,968
    Check the troop strength of the US Army. Then find out what forces the IJA could/would provide for an invasion. As they considered the Pearl Harbor raid to be a diversion of strength that could have been better used in the Southern Resources Area there isn't really much they would have given to the project.
     
  4. OpanaPointer

    OpanaPointer I Point at Opana Staff Member WW2|ORG Editor

    Joined:
    Jun 5, 2008
    Messages:
    19,193
    Likes Received:
    5,968
    This goes in the wiki.
     
  5. Slipdigit

    Slipdigit Good Ol' Boy Staff Member WW2|ORG Editor

    Joined:
    May 21, 2007
    Messages:
    18,054
    Likes Received:
    2,376
    Location:
    Alabama
    And here, too. I have my toes in the sand and commenting via my phone, otherwise I could supply links.

    Shiping would be a major issue getting a large enough force there, then supporting the endeavor.
     
  6. lwd

    lwd Ace

    Joined:
    Jul 24, 2007
    Messages:
    12,322
    Likes Received:
    1,245
    Location:
    Michigan
    I doubt they could have gotten an invasion force close to PH without being spotted either. One of the factors in the PH raid was that we knew where the IJN battlefleet was and a lot of their transport.
     
  7. ResearcherAtLarge

    ResearcherAtLarge Member

    Joined:
    Jun 27, 2010
    Messages:
    156
    Likes Received:
    63
    Some rough calculations estimate about sixty ships just to support that one operation, had it happened.
     
  8. OpanaPointer

    OpanaPointer I Point at Opana Staff Member WW2|ORG Editor

    Joined:
    Jun 5, 2008
    Messages:
    19,193
    Likes Received:
    5,968
    And we know the IJN couldn't supply the outlying garrisons that were closer to the Home Islands.
     
  9. dna

    dna New Member

    Joined:
    Nov 23, 2015
    Messages:
    16
    Likes Received:
    0
    Location:
    Texas
    Thanks, All. This is really, clear useful information and puts to rest something I've encountered sort of obliquely over the past 30 odd years. It would have been an interesting battle: 2 well entrenched US Infantry divisions, backed up with tunnel rail guns, heavy artillery and some Stewart tanks with a well considered plan of defense in depth, secure communications and solid supply lines vs. a juggernaut that's stock and trade was having its troops appear where and when you least expect them.
     
  10. lwd

    lwd Ace

    Joined:
    Jul 24, 2007
    Messages:
    12,322
    Likes Received:
    1,245
    Location:
    Michigan
    Consider also that Japanese invasion doctrine was not to assault defended beaches and that they had little or perhaps better to say no real doctrine for naval fire support particularly if IJA forces. I seam to recall that not many of the beaches were well suited for landings but that could easily be off.
     

Share This Page