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GB EU Refferendum June 2016 - Should the GB stay or exit the European Union? BRexit

Discussion in 'The Stump' started by Ben Dover, Mar 16, 2016.

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  1. Poppy

    Poppy grasshopper

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    Sounded like the stay was inferring Britain would be hobbled by a leave vote.
    Canada stands with Britain, business as usual.
     
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  3. denny

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    I can see that some of you hate democracy.
    BTW.....if you vote, you cannot also complain about the process, just because things did not go your way. If YOU Were the majority, and the minority (voters) accused you of being young and stupid.......I am sure you can see the hypocrisy.
    Regards how a WWII Vet would have voted...who cares.?
    Ore man, one vote. The fact that somebody was around for WWII does not make them special when it is election time.
    Not to mention it is very uncool to be putting Words/Ideology in the mouths of others, most of whom are dead and gone.
     
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  4. CAC

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    As can be seen Australia doesn't do much business with the U.K. Anymore...about 3pc. Not going to have much/any affect on us.
     
  5. belasar

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    Nobody said there was gonna be any math on this quiz!
     
  6. Sloniksp

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    May I ask our rogues from GB for which way they voted? Why?
     
  7. Sheldrake

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    The objection made by second referendum - which was started in May was that an irreversible decision with as many consequences as this should never have been based on a simple majority. In most membership organisations you need 60:40% or 66:33% and high quorate to make constitutional changes.

    52% to 49% is not a strong mandate and there is a lot of evidence that many saw this as a protest vote to express their frustration. A 5% difference in votes is enough for an election, which merely decides who runs the country for a limited period. The decision to leave the EU, is probably irrivesable, unpicks decades of legislation and has long term impact on our alliances and future of millions of people - it also has a major impact on the world economy and might undermine the EU itself. Should this really have been at the mercy of the judgement of 5% of the electorate who want to give David Cameron a kick in the teeth?

    For all of the calls for unity it has exposed some really deep divisions in the country between: the old and young: England against London, Scotland and Ireland.: and the educated versus the uneducated. It is particularly unhealthy that the old are condemning the young to a future. The poorly conducted campaigning and mendacious of the claims of the winning side makes it unlikely that the remainers are going to simply accept that the better side won.
     
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    Cameron won a general election only a year ago. Only London (in England) voted Remain; every other single region in the country voted LEAVE. Cameron doesn't win many seats in the North, North-West, North East or Wales. The voters in these regions were all aware that their party (Labour) was recommending Remain. And the graphic above shows that we can make good progress on our own as we are very largely in deficit when it comes to imports - that is, if the Europeans do impose tarifs or not give us access to the Single Market..but do we need to buy one million German cars per year, really?
     
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    It would appear these infographics are mildly out of date... so to be taken with a grain of salt. But I couldn't find any better.
     
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    OEC site says;

    "In 2014, the United Kingdom exported $472B and imported $663B, resulting in a negative trade balance of $191B."

    I know nothing about how the voting is counted or officially reported or the regions of England as applies to voting constituencies, but I see in the news that Manchester, Liverpool, Brighton, Norwich, Cambridge, Oxford, and Leeds voted remain.

    I find it very sad that this is so very divisive.

    Truly the UK needs to now heal the divide, divest itself of Europe, and move on.
     
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    I am not familiar with the process of how the UK got herself in the EU so I must ask if entering in it at any stage included a 'Super' majority vote?
     
  12. GRW

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    Hear bloody hear.
    Don't make me laugh about that petition for a second referendum; it was started in MAY. How can you start a demand for a second referendum before we even had the first? It's a classic piece of agitprop.
     
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    I write from Mallorca ... Where will you go this summer ? To Cardiff? I don't think so... You are wellcome.

    In fact there are a great number of British retirees in the South of Spain wich is still a cheap area (sure I love it) .. well now it's a 10% more expensive ,and must say that this people have wages of just 800 € ... if not they would have chosen other place...
     
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    You make a UK holiday sound like a bad thing.
    IMHO if someone can afford to retire and go and live in another country, they have more than just the basic state pension as a source of income..
     
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    Not surprised in the slightest-

    "Questions are being raised as to the true number of UK citizens signing a petition to urge another European Union membership referendum as evidence emerged that activists are encouraging foreign signatories. Some critics claim that a “bot” or “script” is being used to automatically generate names and signatories.
    As of early Sunday afternoon, over 3.1 million signatures had been registered on the petition named: “EU Referendum Rules triggering a 2nd EU Referendum” which calls for the “Government to implement a rule that if the remain or leave vote is less than 60% based a turnout less than 75% there should be another referendum.”
    But an analysis of the data on the petition shows that at least 6 per cent of the signatories, or nearly 200,000 are from foreign countries. While foreign-based UK nationals are allowed to sign UK petitions, some believe that many of these are fraudulent given that Remain activists are handing out post codes online in order to elicit more signatures from abroad."
    http://www.breitbart.com/london/2016/06/26/questions-raised-3m-remain-petition-activists-encourage-foreign-signatories/
     
  19. efestos

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    In fact it was just an example, IMHO no country produces all it needs. So devaluate currency increases the cost of importations ... and the cost of the local production based on the importations... inflation.

    And well... the fact is that many UK retirees have choosen Benalmadena and so... because it is really cheap to live there. The data about wages is real. Now I have a question. Who will pay their medic care?

    And this is just about what concerns me... in a couple of months we will have an idea of the impact on the "financial industry"...
     
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    Who pays for it now?
     
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