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  1. Caiapfas

    Caiapfas New Member

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    IMO EVERYONE who has anything to do with these camps should be put to death. I don't care how old you are.

    what's worst is Jewish American soldiers were treated the same. work/death camps.

    This goes for the jap camps.. those honorable fake samurai killed thousands of our real heroes yet they come to gloat at Pearl Harbor where real heroes lay and no one has any issue with it. we should make them pay! that goes double for Nanking

    samurai's my ass.
     
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    wm. Well-Known Member

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    Actually concentration camps were run by the prisoners themselves. In every of them there was a hierarchy of functionary prisoners keeping the day-to-day operations.

    Prisoners mainly had to deal with those functionaries, and there were they main enemies, because there were always with them, even slept in the same barracks.
    And as the SS they could kill or punish prisoners at will.
    In caparison SS-men were rarely seen, and because of that not that dangerous.

    The highest position available was Lagerältester - camp leader.

    As there were lots of them, up to 10% in some camps, it would be lots of people to execute.
     
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    What about the Allied concentration camps?
     
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    Try not to let the door hit you on the way out....

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  5. green slime

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    Try reading some real literature, and not neo-nazi bullshit.
     
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    The British, Russians and Americans used concentration camps first.
     
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    green slime Member

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    Ummmm. Nope. Not in the context of WW2.

    And the consequences for the incarcerated were far less severe.

    But keep digging your hole. The sooner you get yourself banned, the better.
     
  8. Leif

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    The British invented concentration camps, and killed far more people than the Third Reich ever did.
     
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    And you invented the first nonsensical oneliner. Or not.
     
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    The British killed 1.8 billion people.
     
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    Or not.
     
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    LRusso216 Graybeard Staff Member

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    I get chills just reading Leif's posts. It was nice of Belasar to disable his posting ability. Oh for the days of banning neo-Nazis.
     
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    belasar Court Jester

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    Should have done it sooner, but waited till he started 3 threads in 20 minutes to be sure.
     
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    On a better note or maybe not, , I remember reading long ago the the Wehrmacht set up a POW camp just for Allied Jewish soldiers who were captured. I vaguely remember that conditions were not as good as the other POW camps but survivable for the most part. Is that true and if so where was it....or did my old mind dream it up. If no, were Jewish war prisoners placed in POW camps as regular captured. .

    All prisons seem to have some type of inmate structure and I am aware of of some collaboration for better treatment but I would note saying death camps being run by the inmates seems a bit ridiculous. Unless it concerns just day to day living . I would assume the SS or others actually ordered and over saw exterminations. Was there not a catagory of camp operators beyond or parallel to the SS ?

    Gaines
     
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    The majority of Allied (well, 'Western' allied) PoWs found to be Jewish were kept within normal PoW camps. An artefact perhaps of the curious German military belief in 'correctness' regarding Red Cross and Bilateral prisoner agreements. A majority, though not all.
    Theresienstadt held repeat PoW escapers, and parts of the 'Prominente' areas were used as a 'model' for a Red Cross inspection late in the war (There's a propaganda film of the visit, doubtless on Youtube somewhere.)

    There is a grain of truth in implying some prisoners had some role in the running of some camps, but not in the simplistic blanket way 'Leif' and his ilk like to imply (don't they love spinning up little grains. Anyone might think that was part of the plan...).
    It's a distorted perception of the grimly pragmatic Kapo system. A variant of which has existed in many prisons under many regimes.
     
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    I thought it was George Bush.
     
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    Otto Spambot Nemesis Staff Member WW2|ORG Editor

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    Not a big deal Belasar, better to let them ramble for a bit and be sure.

    It's not as if anyone is ever going to be convinced into nazi beliefs by reading his posts, rather he will simply turn more people against him.
     
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    While most Jewish POWs may have gone to the regular POW camps, those caught by SS units may not all have made it to the POW pens. A lot of what happened in Waffen SS units depended on the mood and predilections of the senior officer present.
     
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    I do not have sympathy for Nazis or other Europeans who were participants in genocide. Concentration camps and genocide are involved and complicated subjects. Read Armenian. Read ethnic Germans in Eastern Europe, Read American Indian, the Mandans. Visit youtube and get a handle on Bomber Harris, the destruction of civilian populations in WW II and the hangings of women and children in Serbia during the Great War. Read the book from archive.org "The Fury of Islam" It's free and about Turkish (Ottoman Empire) atrocities against Christians. And of course the Jewish death camps.
    There is something very wrong and sick about humanity.
    How do we keep the powers (bankers and industrialists) in countries from starting these wars where the citizens are tricked into killing each other so the powers profit?
    Even today what our country puts our soldiers through is criminal.
    Let's start by the dumping the Clinton crime family and the Bush crime family and put these criminals and associates (George Soros et al ) in prison for war crimes and espionage. Go youtube and visit infowars and Alex Jones channels. Go Trump. No more war for the bankers and new world order.

    No more WW II's.
     
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    There was nothing wrong with concentration camps, Allied or not. A concentration camp (a place to "concentrate" you real or imagined enemies using administrative means) was a legitimate tool to be used during war.

    Although it was not ok to mistreat, torture, kill people in a concentration camp or outside it. According to the Hague Conventions this made you a war criminal.
    This is why, according to international law, the Nazi camps were a massive war crime, and the others were not.
     

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