Most Evil men of WW2

I was actually meaning some people I have worked with.

 

your present perfect tense is reassuring, at least for me. I am feeling with you. sometimes I am in a danger zone of this type myself. :roll:

 

Anybody mentioned that german pows, those who survived the gulag, only to returned home in the 1950's.

The cossacks and many other etnic groups who were almost wiped out or deported to Siberia by stalin.

Stalins famous statement "one death is a tragedy, a million is a statistic" tells us alot about how the man thinks.

Hitler did alot of dispicable inhuman things to those who were not Arian. but to the germans he did alot of good eg the autobahn, he cut the uneployment rate from 30% to less then 10, he brought germany out of the great deperssion (spelling), gave them back their pride from the Versailles treaty, of course this in no way justfies what he did to the non arian races.

But one might ask if he had conpleted the "final solution" what then, would he have continued and to who or would he have stoped ??. Stalin never did stop, there was no end.

As for the jews they have been treated as subhuman by varous western nations since the dark ages. Both stalin and Hitler killed them the main difference Hitler was caught doing it, but stalin was did not. ( pls ask how many jews are there in russia today ). jews being the killer of jesus is just plain dumb and naive, correct me if i am wrong but was'nt jesus a jew also??



Whereas Hitler did some good for germany, Stalin like Mao did not do very much for their own country in fact it can be argued that without them the country would have progress further.

EVIL yes they were both Evil, just that stalin did more damage, and killed more then hitler.

 

Stalin did quite a bit more for his country than Hitler if you consider only raw figures, because that is what Stalin himself liked to go by. He organized and carried out the industrialization of Russia which brought the country from the ultimate loser of World War I to the equal of other industrial powers during World War II. Obviously he did this with no regard whatsoever for the improvement of the general life of his subjects, but without this industrialization campaign his country would have been virtually defenceless against the Nazis.

Also, I don't think you can say Hitler would have stopped killing once he wiped out all the Jews. His intention was not to exterminate "the Jews" but to purify the German/Aryan race, and hence he would have steadily and consequently killed every misfit in his "perfect" society. This is nothing like the exterminations of Stalin, who was just paranoid; this is the systematic eradication of a people for the sake of it.

 

However in raw stats which Stalin went by Russia turned from an exporter of wheat, to an importer of wheat.

I am not saying Stalin was worse then Hitler, just that both where of the type that deserve unique places in Hell.

 

Indeed, he sacrificed food production (unintentionally) and the production of consumer goods (intentionally) to achieve high figures in heavy industrial output. I am not saying this is a good or humane policy, but I am prepared to defend that without this policy, Russia by 1941 would never have been able to field a decent army against the Germans.

 

However if you factor in Stalin's industrialization into how it helped the Soviet Army beat the Germans then shouldn't his purges of some of the finest officers in the world be factored in as well?

 

Most of the officers purged were old inflated aristocrats who had only attained their position through heirachy; the kind of officer you had in WW1. Although they needed to be replaced with proper military officers, it didnt need to be done so violently, or to go so far, Stalin killed alot of good officers as well, and left the Soviet military structure in shambles.

 

Not true, Stalin purged modern thinking officers who had actually pioneered the Soviet Army's armoured corps and other mechanized forces, and actually replaced them with many incompetent officers and returned Soviet Forces to mass formations, which the Germans steamrolled easily during Barborossa.

 

I would say Stalin still did more good than hitler.His industrialization gave Russia a chance at the cost of food,lives and etc etc.However,i would have doubted that a russia with Hitler at the helm would be a better place for all.Russians were subhuman afterall in Hitler's eyes.

Hitler killed with a cold calculating mind and had it planned systematically.Stalin killed in what he believed was good for the nation and it does,to a certain extent.IT's like killing someone for money and killing someone because you think he doesn't deserve to live.Both are evil,but which is worse?

 

Stalin killed for the good of himself, not the nation as a whole.

 

i belive hitlers parents met and conjugated sometime in the 1890s....what do you mean by godless corperations...if i might ask?

 

oops the above is a relpie to mutant poodle ,in most evil person thread,,,landed in wrong box somehow

 

Oli:
You took the words right outta my mouth. My thoughts precisely.

Tim

 

Yes, but as always in Russia, men were more easily replaced than machines, and the ability to produce machines therefore counted more heavily than the ability to find good officers, I suppose.

It is hard to put oneself in the shoes of a Russian dictator and to try to think in his terms...

 

Adolf Hitler, Adolf Hitler, Adolf Hitler. What? He was one of the evilest men to walk the Earth! He invaded Poland, he took over France, and worst of all, he killed thousands of Jews in his Holocaust death camps. He so deserved to die.

 

It's just Poland and France then?

He caused the fire that burned down all of Europe, and killed another 12 million "unwanted" civilians as if the war wasn't bad enough.

 

IIRC the accepted figure is around 6 million.

The Japanese are just as bad though Blaster, millions of Asians died at the hands of their Japanese "Liberators".

Plus playing devil's advocate, as my history teacher used to point out at any given opportunity, there is not a single piece of actual evidence directly linking Adolf Hitler himself to the carrying out of the Holocaust against the Jews.

 

don't worry mate , they're still in business !!

 

I know the Japs are bad, they killed millions of Asians, like you mentioned, Simon, and only the atom bomb could stop them from carrying on with their evil ways. It's just that I don't know any famous Japs, so I went with a German that could match any Jap.