Why Danyel Phelps Was Banned - explicit content

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Not on here you don't - somebody handing in a report written by somebody else and claiming it as their own is Plagiarism.
Most schools / colleges etc have that written into their regulations / rules somewhere.

I do not want this encouraged on here.

 

Now here's a fine example of a moderator going on a power trip, and the third time I have been associated with the criminal act of plagiarism.

Ricky, I was attempting to help a new member. It would have been out of good graces that I offered my assistance on a subject that this forum is (supposedly) dedicated to anyway.

It's not like the Canadian police are going to host a raid on Southern California and bust down my door if they found out I did her report, and certainly they aren't going to go all the way to Europe to attack the person who hosts this forum.

 

Not a power trip. A power trip would be banning you for it.

You offered to write her report for her, which is Plagiarism - unless of course it was being submitted under your name, which seems unlikely.

Please do not do this on the Forum again.

 

Oh yeah, a power trip would be banning me in order to keep another member around, wouldn't it? Lets be thankful that never happened. Oh, wait...

 

There is a big difference though between helping someone in a way such as providing them with information, and doing their work for them by actually writing their essay.

Many courses in the UK will automatically fail individuals for handing in work that they did not do (Not just the assignment, but the whole course), I don't know what level of study Jane is at (I'm guessing it's no that advanced) or what policies her school or college have on this, but she could have got in trouble for that if caught.

 

Apart from the fact that people in every form of education are there to learn how to do things themselves, and having others doing it for them means they might as well not bother with being educated at all. Of course I am aware that copying the work of others goes on constantly in schools and even in higher education, but that does not mean I condone it here on this forum where I have a say on it.

Oh, and before Danyel brings it up himself, yes I did help him with some of his homework once. No exchange of actual information was involved, and me doing a nonsensical task* for someone else when he's having a rough time keeping up in school is something entirely different from doing actual research and writing an actual essay for someone who quite simply seems to have started too late on too large a topic.

*I pasted pictures together for him to form a collage, using the internet and MS Paint.

 

I'm not falling for it this time, Roel. This is where you flat out lie about me to the forum community, trying to provoke me into sending you a message about it in private and ban me. You moderators do this all the time, and I’m tired of playing your little game.

Pasting together a collage? I am not a preschooler, Roel.

If you're going to ban me for offering to help a forum member, do it right now or don't do it at all. You've banned me for more unjust reasons before, and it's useless to attempt to debate things with you high and mighty mods because all you will do is dodge the issue.

 

All right, one last time.

What is the issue here?

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Ricky's (belated) moderator post is well founded; plagairism has serious consequences in most schools and nobody wishes for members to face these consequences because of their trying to help each other. As such, the moderator's input here is constructive and to the benefit of all concerned; had it been more timely, it would have saved you, Danyel Phelps, the trouble of trying to write the essay, too. It helps prevent those about to engage in plagiarism, those about to supply its contents, and those unaware of rules against it.

This, then, is completely uncalled for. First, Ricky doesn't accuse you of plagiarism, he merely points out that he does not want you to encourage what may be labeled as plagiarism by supplying work for others to deliver as school work. The plagiarism in this case would be on the part of GI Jane.

A rather stupid remark by Ricky, considering that you do not take sarcasm well when aggravated. However:

This is completely random. It has no point whatsoever in relation to what Ricky was actually saying, seeing as it replies only to a remark he made in jest; besides, and we covered this at length with you on several occasions, we did not ban you to keep another member around. Every time we have to tell you this the realization seems to sink in, but every time you have a disagreement with us, you keep bringing it back up. It is not true that we banned you to keep KBO around, and that's the end of it. We banned KBO, but did we un-ban him later on? No, we didn't. We un-banned you, though. Why would we do that, if we wanted so much to have KBO on here instead of you?

Mostly, however, this remark by you has absolutely nothing to do with the topic at hand. This seems to get even worse when I try to be honest with the forum by revealing that I have actually done your homework once:

I'm disgusted by the fact that you have apparently forgotten this service I have done for you, and that you're willing to call me a liar for bringing it up. When it comes to speaking the truth my word is worth as much as yours, and I am telling you now that I did do exactly this work for you. We cannot debate this any further, but the way you show what should have been gratitude does tell me something about you as a person.

That much about my personal integrity, now we move on to the second point. Yes, I would normally have posted this message to you in private, however here we are: feel free to reply to it here if you can't stand it otherwise. The reason why the admin would normally have such conversations by PM is that they are irrelevant to other members.

From that point onwards I do not see the realism of your words. We would have this conversation in private - and ban you? Why? Are you saying that just because Ricky jokingly mentioned that banning you for plagiarism would be a power trip, we would actually do this? It was a joke, really, if a rather undiplomatic one. The point about us moderators doing this "all the time" just has no foundation in facts whatsoever.

Would you call this dodging the issue? I'm doing exactly what you seem to want: I'm taking this up with you in person in this very thread, not by PM, and I'm not banning you. If you're unwilling to accept this gesture by me, and if you continue to post slur on my person on the forums here, then I shall have to ban you for those very good reasons, but not a second earlier. It is, therefore, your choice.

 

I beg to differ, you little runt. You DID attempt to take this up with me in private, and you tried to get me to stay something wrong. Well guess what, here it is:

Skua: You can burn in hell, you shitstain.

Ricky: You're nothing but a sniveling little me-to bot of every other moderator on the forum. There is no reason for you to even be a moderator, yet you have let it swell your head like a puss-filled fuckin' zit.

Roel: See the above, except you're not only a shitstain. You're a lying little shitstain.

And while I’m at it, you douche bag, you made the mistake of publicly stating on the forum that provoking me into sending a private message to Skua so you have grounds to fabricate a reason to ban me was indeed intended to calm KBO down and make him happy. I should never have confronted you about it on retrospect, because like the sneaky little fucktard you are you ninja-edited the post.

So that’s it. I am done posting on a forum that is dictated by a tyrannical group of misfit mother fuckers, I’m done being the victim of your dumbass little ego trips, and I’m done contributing as much as I have to this pap smear of a forum that's dictated by a bunch of elitist stuck up jackasses like you.

Find someone else to fuck with, bastards.

 

I will not have to explain myself when I ban Danyel Phelps, surely.

 

Maybe. I don't see what he did wrong.

(I'm joking, of course! In bad taste, but lightening the mood is what I like to do Paranoid delusions come to mind reading his last post, however.)

 

Well, just to make sure there is no doubt about it.

He accused the administration of abuse of power. Again.
He accused the administration of banning him without reason. Again.
He exploded in rage when he was criticized by moderators. Again.
He insulted Skua, Ricky, and me. Again.
He went off the topic of what was actually being said about him to personally insult the forum, the forum admin, and the ones criticizing him, for no reason other than the inevitable realization that he was wrong. Again.

My sincerest apologies to everyone he has been able to insult because I, as forum admin, was kind enough to let him come back after being banned. That goes especially for you, Simon.

 

It was just a misunderstanding that escalated too far

 

Ah, what a drama! Social porn!

Where is my popcorn?

 

I should point out that Danyel has been banned, despite his rank not having been changed to 'banned'.

This is simply because thanks to the 'upgrade' we cannot alter ranks any more.

This topic will be split & moved to the 'Announcements & Suggestions' section tomorrow.

 

Reading this whole situation actually makes me feel sad. Never felt like that before when browsing the forums.

 

As a staff member of a site very similar to this one, I suggest you moderators lock or remove this thread as nobody wants any kids to see it. It also makes the forum look bad to any possible new members who are just browsing before joining. If nothing else, you could put a disclaimer on it.

 

Good point JCalhoun, thanks. I have edited the first post to warn unsuspecting visitors.

 

Excellent.