why did japan Surrender

1 million is what I heard,

 

Casualties! Righto. Sorry, I misread that as "deaths".

 

I doubt what you heard is fact, though. One million US casualties... anybody have a source on that? Like Roel, all I have seen is around 400,000.

 

a million allied wia,mia kia....and dont forget the tens of millions of japanese who would have perished for certain.the atom bomb saved many more asians than it did yankees....for those who decrey the enola gay raid,try to remeber that the people of america in 1945 wouldnt have cared a fig if the abomb killed every man woman and child on honshu...two years later when every american pvt in japan had a live in giesha girl of his own and her family to support by default,gi joe wouldnt let anyone harm a hair on the head of any of his own adopted familysan...humans are strange creatures,neh?

 

The source for the million casualties figure was the US military; I can't recall if the Army alone came up with the figure or if it was a joint effort. When the invasion of Japan was studied and planned, casualtiy estimates were part of the package. It has been suggested that this was actually the worst-case scenario figure. But even if that's true, 400,000 is nothing to sneeze at, either, and such losses would have been unacceptable to the American people at that time. And Japanese casualties would have dwarfed whatever the American figure eventually turned out to be. Remember, on Saipan many Japanese civilians, believing propaganda that told them that the Americans would rape, torture, and kill them regardless of age or gender, killed themselves right in front of the horrified US Marines that saw them. I have no doubt whatsoever that this scenario of mass suicide would have been repeated in Japan, only on a much vaster scale. Any invasion of the Japanese home islands would have rapidly turned into a bloodbath for both sides, but especially for the civilians, either through combat or suicide.

 

when the 10th army landed in Okinawa with 150.000 effective they got
75.000 casualties .

Olympic , the november landing on kiushiu , around kagoshima bay was
a ten division affair , mostly the 6th army and the marines,the goal was
to destroy in battle the remains of the japannese air force and navy and
to seize air and shipping bases in preparation for

Coronet , the landing in tokyo bay around january ( ? ) that was the back
breaker , the troops would be the U.S. 8th, 10th and 1st army , the last
still fighting in europe,
there would be a strong component of the royal navy , a british corps ,
australian divisions and a possible french corps .
anything who could float , fly or shot would be there .

some grim facts ,
kagoshima bay, olympic landing , was identified by the japannese as the
probable landing site , the place was buttonned up with plentyof suicide
weapons held ready .

in case of Olympic being too costly , japan would be blocaded , bombed
with high altitude and carrier planes , it would be starved into surrender

 

yes a million allied casaulties....and if iwo and okinawa ratios applie 10 or 30 million japanese casualties.....the abomb was a great life saver in the end...how ironic

 

The masses could be told anything by a government propaganda machine, but the clouds from the Atomic bombs provided visual evidence to the people that Japan was being destroyed; I guess this could still be explained away as Japanese tests of some superweapon or something, but the 2 cities were destroyed, and they would have to quarantine off large areas to keep the people from finding out; I suppose they still would be able to see it, or find out the truth anyway....so I would say the bombs also.
I didn't know anything about the Russian vs Japanese, it's one of the campaigns we hear almost nothing about, thanks!

 

The Atomic Bomb definately.

The Russian Invasion of Manchuria would have meant very little to a Japan preparing to defend it's own Islands.

The Japanese following of Bushido and charging American Soldiers when out of bullets/surrounded or both instead of surrendering like everyone else would have though certainly did cause disproportionate Japense casualties, had Allied forces invaded Japan.

A far cry from the pyschological warfare waged by Tokugawa Ieyasu.

 

on ie shima okinawan woman and children were cajoled or forced into attacking american lines at night with bamboo spears...americvan g.i.s were sickened by the sight of the pitiful force they had mowed down when the sun came up...children on honshu were being drilled to run under sherman tanks with special little backpacks (not filled with schoolbooks....)

 

I think the A-bomb speeded up the Japanese surrender by at least a year, the Russians coming into the war did this by only weeks or days.

The Soviet version of events from that era never cease to amuse me. They seem to forget a lot of details, including General MacArthur having to tell a Russian General that if Soviet troops tried to quickly occupy Hokkaido (as he was hinting) they would be attacked by U.S. forces.