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RD-180s...They have been back on the menu since June, 2016. However, outside of any outstanding contracts, only 18 can be purchased between FY 2017 and 2022.

The RD-180 replacement is Blue Origin's BE-4, with Aerojet Rocketdyne's AR-1 as a fallback. The option for license US production of the RD-180 is also being kept open. However, both the BE-4 & AR-1 are still undergoing testing and are not expected to fly operationally until 2019.

 

A quick search shows upcoming launches using Atlas, Falcon, Delta, and Pegasus. The Atlas of course used the RD-180. Of course one has to be careful in answering "what is NASA using?" Are you talking rockets launched from NASA facilities, or with NASA payloads or are you using it as a general term for US space launches. ULA is the only one that would really be hurt here if we couldn't get any more of the RD-180's. The other companies supplying launch services would be given a big boost by it.

 

Thnx for the reply gents. I haven't been up to date on the matter ( a bit busy lately)... I do remember McCain trying to stop the purchase of these engines in order prevent US reliance on Russia in the matter. NASA was opposed to his demands. Glad cooler heads prevailed.

I am familiar with the private sector but understand that while it has made some significant progress, it is still years away from a reliable source? When speaking of anything US space related I do refer to NASA as it is still the sole provider of space flight in the US...

 

Space X is carrying launching payloads for both NASA and the military now I believe. The Falcone is their bird if I remember correctly. The US looked at building the RD-180s here but decided not to. I think in part because ULA wanted to build a newer and better engine. That's not due until the 2020's though. In the mean time some of SpaceX's innovations may leave them behind. The reusable first stages in particular may have a big impact.

 

Yes the reusable engines are a HUGE step forward but I didn't think the Falcon would be ready until 2018?

I was unaware that SpaceX is flying. I will have to do more research, clearly I'm behind the times.

As for Trumps idea, seems ambitious but I'm all for it. Space exploration should be a priority for all major powers. Much can be gained and learned not to mention it is the epitome of technological achievement.

 

Part of it may be that what makes news about SpaceX is often there experimental efforts. They are still pushing the envelope and this results in some spectacular success and failures successful satellite launches by anyone are hardly news anymore. There's another private company that's also either ready to or almost ready to enter the commercial launch business but I can't think of their name right now.

 

I wonder who Donald will blame for this new loss? Certainly not himself.

 

No, because Falcon took less time to build than i thought. It was four or five years.

All pre-Obama projects.
His only achievement is he didn't cancel them, like he did with NASA's Mars Science Orbiter.
But he tried to seriously reduce NASA's budget. Thanks God the GOP prevented it.

 

Of course not. He is already blaming the Democrats for this Trumptastrophy...Even though the Republicans hold majorities in the House and Senate, they still could not pass their own bill.

 

Especially when they have been harping on this since the ACA's inception.

 

'Doing Big Things Is Hard': Ryan Kills Healthcare Bill Moments Before Vote
Trump told reporters at the White House that "it was a very, very tight margin" but the "best thing we can do, politically speaking, is let Obamacare explode."
The president argued that if reticent lawmakers had considered phases two and three of the replacement plan "it would have been a great bill."

Instead, Trump said it would now be good if Democrats "got together with us -- I'd be totally open to it" to craft a bipartisan healthcare fix "when they all become civilized."
He said he has "a great relationship with the Republican Party" despite the faction splits in the healthcare debate -- "both sides like Trump, and that's good."

"Bad things are going to happen to Obamacare; there's not much you can do to help it," Trump said, adding that many Democrats are "good people" and he believes "they'll come to us" to work on a new bill.

 

How so? The first Falcon 9 flight was to have been in March, 2010, but was pushed back until June, 2010, when it first flew on June 4, 2010
But, now you are telling us that in 2005-2006, Obama was President...Boy you really are bitter about Obama aren't you.

Uh-huh...Yet the Mission to Mars is a Pre-Trump project, and that did not stop you...Just more of your "Do As I Say, Don't Do As I Do."

Ummm...That was cancelled to cover the budgetary shortfall due to the James Webb Space Telescope running well over budget and behind schedule.
James Webb Space Telescope - Wikipedia

Umm...The GOP did reduce the NASA budget in FY 2012 & FY 2013.

 

It would be good if the Dems got together with us...Ummm, Trumpster, you can't even get all the Republicans to get together with you, what make you think that the Democrats will get aboard this Trumptastrophy.

But, hey, never mind the Republican majorities...Blame the Democrats...Blame the Democrats.

 

Certainly most notable Democrats see the ACA as 'flawed and in need of fixing', which means they know its worse than they are prepared to concede. Most notable Republicans call it a total disaster and must be thrown away completely, which means the know there are positives in it but won't admit it.

The bottom line is that it was a deeply flawed House bill and the real culprit lay there. One that the Senate said repeatedly that it could not pass there, when in fact it could not even pass in the House itself.

The problem with both plans and both party's is that they won't touch the third rail of why our medical costs continue to rise exponentially. The lobbyist's for big medicine have a strangle hold on Congress. Drugs that cost thousands of dollars per dose, Hospitals that that double/overcharge for care, Doctors who prescribe unnecessary tests, Insurance company's who want to take your money but not pay your bills.

Until we take a real swipe at those things, working on the margins as they do will get us nowhere.

 

Read the reporter tweets. He called the Washington Post and NYT letting them know they pulled it.

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TRUMP tells me in interview this is now the Democrats' fault, and that he anticipates that when Obama "explodes" they will be ready to deal

 

No, I've said "in the same time" not "at the same time". Obama wasted 8 years, Spacex needed 5 years. That's all.

Yes, the Mission to Mars is a pre-Trump project, but for Obama it was a bastard child, for Trump one of the first decisions he made so far.
Well, at least we had Barack Obama: Nasa must try to make Muslims 'feel good'.

The NASA budget in FY 2012 & FY 2013 wasn't reduced. From FY2011 to FY2014 it practically didn't change.

 

Paying no never mind to the fact that NASA is no longer in the habit of building "space taxis." Which is why Obama "wasted" 8 years and billions of dollars worth of contracts to SpaceX.

Which is why we have all of those Muslim astronauts...Oh yeah, that's right...We don't.

The last US Muslim to go to space was not even an astronaut, but a space tourist, who coughed up tens of millions to the Russians for the privilege in 2006.

Apparently it did change because your "proof of these drastic "Obama" cuts to NASA's budget was this Wiki snippet

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He did it earlier, NASA budget in 2014 constant dollars:
2008 19,700
2009 19,714
2010 20,423
2011 17,833
2012 17,471
2013 17,219
2014 17,647

Barack Obama’s early education and K-12 plan package costs about $18 billion per year. He will maintain fiscal responsibility and prevent any increase in the deficit by offsetting cuts and revenue sources in other parts of the government. The early education plan will be paid for by delaying the NASA Constellation Program for five years.

 

This was his pre-election plan...Hence, the "paid for by Obama For America."

 

Not to mention the sustaining resolution business over the last several years which can reasonably be laid at the feet of some members of the GOP.

Then there's the fact that presidents don't control the budgeting process.