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Iran - is war likely?

Discussion in 'Non-World War 2 History' started by Ricky, Feb 12, 2007.

  1. TIRDAD

    TIRDAD Active Member

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    They are destroying their hometown to build neighbors country!!!

    even they are not Iranians!

    I don't accept them as leaders of my country!

    they are arab's servants, slaves!

    mother whores!
     
  2. TIRDAD

    TIRDAD Active Member

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    they don't live in tehran! or iran...

    so it's better to say to them:

    "Just Fuck Off!!! you mother whores!

    You've fled like rats from sinking ship!

    Traitors! Bastards!"
     
  3. TIRDAD

    TIRDAD Active Member

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    Even hell won't accept those fucking creatures!
     
  4. rkline56

    rkline56 USS Oklahoma City CG5

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    You should edit your posts, man.
    You will get the boot here for that kind of language.
    Just saying, up to you. Tell us all about Iran but keep it on point and clean - no?
    Those guys left Iran to avoid the persecution, prison or worse. What's wrong with that, their opinion was anathema to the state so they took their philosophies elsewhere.
     
  5. Ken The Kanuck

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    Intolerance breeds intolerance. The Shah introduced tolerance and the intolerant removed him.

    KTK
     
  6. green slime

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    Actually,... the Shah's SAVAK tortured and killed their own citizenry. Hardly a beacon of tolerance The revolution was Marxist-based, but they were usurped by the better organised and, within Iran, widely recognised figure of Ayatollah Khomeini. Also worth noting, is the rigid class system (with royalty) meant that almost all Iran's resources and land were owned by a relatively small number of enormously rich families. This still exists to a lesser degree today. Fundamentally, the Shah's "freedoms" meant very little for those with little. The Shah's attempt at land reform was an abject failure. Now, nearly 40 years after the revolution, you can still find enormously wealthy families with vast estates living in Iran still bemoaning the land, factories, and wealth they've lost.

    And let's not forget it was the CIA-lead coup of '53 which prevented the nationalisation of the Oilfields, the CIA strengthened the Shah's power, and supported the activities of the SAVAK.

    Of course, nowadays, after the almost total destruction of the middle class by the embargo, corruption, and neopotism, the Shah's ruthless oppression of dissidents, looks almost benign. But the rich were never tolerant of the ambitions of the poor in Iran.
     
  7. Ken The Kanuck

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    Having lived and worked in Iran when the Shah was in power and seeing what has happened after he was ousted, it is my belief that the Shah's reign was much more tolerant.

    Naturally you must factor in that Iran is a predominantly Shite Muslim country, and tolerance is not a defining aspect of that society/religion.

    KTK
     
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    The same people working for the SAVAK worked for the Ayatollahs after the revolution. Their skills were needed. But we know where and when they learned their tradecraft.

    The Marxists of the time certainly didn't think the Shah was particularly tolerant, and it was getting worse, as opposition to his reign grew. The high level of illiteracy didn't help either... Life was grim for many.
     
  9. bronk7

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    no--no war yet.......interesting thread here from 2007....
    ..Iran and Iraq fought a ''total'' war for years.....no real winner --just losers...their economies took a hit..
    ...the US and allies showed what the US military is capable of in desert terrain in PG1--and this was against a foe with much more recent combat experience!--more than the US......Iran doesn't want to mess with the US ...
     
  10. Kai-Petri

    Kai-Petri Kenraali

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    There are Iranian troops in Syria just north of Israel. Does Iran want to destroy Israel? Could they get Syrian poison gas and use it? Does Israel have nukes? Does the USA support Israel? I do hope there will not be any escalation of war now.
     
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    ...I guess not----correct? especially now
     
  12. Kai-Petri

    Kai-Petri Kenraali

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    Guess whose worst enemy is. USA. what is the reason why not soon- ecluding Corona?
     
  13. Jack B

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    I'm not sure the USA is Iran's worst enemy. I suspect Arabia is.

    Yes, the USA is the 'Great Satan', but the real struggle is for control of the region. Saudi Arabia is the competition.
     
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    After reading more and more about China's involved in this Covid-19 outbreak..I suspect they are the real enemy now...you wonder why few cases reported in North Korea or Russia???..simply China's biggest supporters.
     
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    China and Russia and North-Korea never give true figures.Liars liar...
     
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    ..it'll have to wait until after the lock down
     
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    It is interesting even between the muslimis they have different religion groups who bomb each other to kingdom come.
     

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