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  1. Prospero Quevedo

    Prospero Quevedo Well-Known Member

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    Was watching a show where they were looking for more missing uboats and found a couple. It's been decades and we still keep finding them, but on the show they were say many are close to complete crumbling into nothing that corrosion with reduce them to just bits of rust debris. Still it is something that in last decade they have found so many. Lots have been searching after they found that one with some gold, now there's companies devoted to searching for rumored treasurer subs and who knows maybe they are there waiting to be found. Like look at all the stuff they found in underground bunkers and mines. I sometimes wonder if they really found it all. Like that forgotten underground ammo dump under a factory the factory was modernizing and was digging down to add new sub levels to the new building when they hit concrete they broke thru and found a long forgotten ammo dump. Who knows what other underground facilities are still out there that have been forgotten waiting to be found.
     
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    Go to Switzerland and their banks. Loads of nazi gold etc, I am sure. I just wonder when the banks can call the gold its own and be more rich. I think they should be opened and the gold given to the Jewish relatives whose grandparents were tortured and killed by nazis.
     
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    Was watching a show where they were looking for more missing uboats and found a couple. It's been decades and we still keep finding them, but on the show they were say many are close to complete crumbling into nothing that corrosion with reduce them to just bits of rust debris. Still it is something that in last decade they have found so many. Lots have been searching after they found that one with some gold, now there's companies devoted to searching for rumored treasurer subs and who knows maybe they are there waiting to be found. Like look at all the stuff they found in underground bunkers and mines. I sometimes wonder if they really found it all. Like that forgotten underground ammo dump under a factory the factory was modernizing ahoyhlî
    Yes or the beginning of record keeping, also the same with the myan aliens helped them but now they say a civilization older than the Mayans and more advanced may have been the ones that influenced the Mayans. And what about that civilization that sank in the Mediterranean that was far advanced advanced may have been the actual first ones to America and mined millions of pounds of copper from lake superior area. Many old mines were found by the first settlers but no one can figure out who did it. Maybe America had an advance culture that died off that we just don't know, like the cliff dweller's and those indians that built those stone houses. People though the early indians never developed a permanent city type of culture but we find evidence that they did and very old maybe the condition that caused wide spread famine in early Europe caused the early indians to revert to migrant hunter gatherers.
     
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    Agriculture must come before permanent settlement…
     
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    Scientist believe these early Indian cultures had learned to cultivate the land but either wide crop failure or overpopulation caused the cities to fail and the people to split up and become nomads. I do think it's strange that these civilizations were far older than the tribes found by the Europeans, they thought the Indians were very primitively and incapable of building cities of any kind. There's lots of theories of why North American Indian civilizations failed, but nothing really solid as yet, maybe the same that topped many of the great civilizations of South America basically war. The great Mayan empire disappeared but now recent studies and discoveries now have many scientists thinking they were victims of a Great War from another equally powerful empire from the north some believe from a people that lived in the now country of Mexico. Maybe they will some day unearth the evidence they need to put it all together. It is still hard to believe that such of huge empire could just disappear they now be live the Mayans were a people of tens of millions. I kinda go with the plague theory as look at what plagues in history have done and what this pandemic is doing to the world now. Maybe they had an outbreak of something so deadly they couldn't cope and a few survivors escaped to start new civilizations. Maybe someday they put it all together.
     
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    Kinda wish I had bought a bunch of those fossil models back when I was in Jr. College they were so inexpensive then as well as lots of kits back then. Wish I had stored away my tasks force games and miniatures better. We were reorganizing the garage and put a bunch of boxes on the back patio I was going to put my boxes somewhere safe my dad told me not to bother till we got most of the garage done later went to get my boxes my dad had thrown all the boxes into the dumpster I had only folded the tops closed no tape the boxes had turned over and opened up and spilled out most of the stuff was 2400 ships 2500 Star Trek miniatures and some 285 scale armor and aircraft I said hell with it it would take hours trying to find them, my dad tried to say that they were in the trash pile I said you told me to put them on the patio and we were going to go thru the boxes tomorrow. Saved one task force Star Trek destroyer and one heavy cruiser. Maybe one day I'll be able to reproduce the whole federation line from them as there wasn't much of a deference from the heavy cruiser main saucer and pylon and engines, the tug was basically the same different pylon and tug containers. The battle cruiser will take a major modification of the main dish and secondary hull but the engines were basically the same. Off to see a orthopedic surgeon for evaluation, I don't think I need or want surgery but the rehab sent my pcp a recommendation for it and a neurologist. Seems I'm seeing some specialist every week these days
     
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    I heard Sean had nightmares about that movie for years.
     
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    I'm not bloody surprised!
     
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    "Scientists are describing a set of 23,000-year-old human footprints discovered in New Mexico as the earliest evidence of human activity in the Americas, 10,000 years earlier than previously believed.
    British and American archaeologists uncovered the prints in soft mud adjoining Alkali Flat, a dry lakebed at White Sands National Park in southern New Mexico.
    Using radiocarbon dating of seed layers above and below the tracks, experts from the U.S. Geological Survey dated the footprints as having been made over a period of at least 2,000 years, according to research published today in the journal Science.
    The oldest tracks date from around 23,000 years ago, a period that corresponds to the Last Glacial Maximum, when ice sheets covered much of North America and sea levels were about 400 feet lower than today.
    For decades it's been generally held that homo sapiens first entered North America between 13,000 and 16,000 years ago — after the melting of the North American ice sheets opened up migration routes and much later than study co-author Sally Reynolds and her colleagues suggest.
    Few archaeologists have claimed reliable evidence for human habitation older than about 16,000 years.
    Additional radiocarbon dates from samples of sediments, animal bones, and charcoal start even earlier — approximately 33,000 years ago — but some critics questioned whether the stone samples were actually made by humans."
    www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-10018883/Footprints-New-Mexico-23-000-years-ago-earliest-evidence-human-activity-New-World.html
     
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    That's on the news here yesterday and today. Isn't there some new satellite technology their using to try to track old lost or dry river beds as a way to find lost cities. My understanding is there's lots of stories of cities across north Africa but nothing found yet but many believe they did exist and if they did as most ancient cities they would have been near a river. They have found more lost Egyptian cities lately so why not other cities out there as Africa is huge
     
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    I think it was amazing about that ancient city they believed for years was another fabled or legend, because they could never find it. Then a new high resolution imagining system happen to catch some strange lines in some remote area, they did more images to try to figure out what the hell was going on. They had found centuries old camel, caravan trails all heading or converging to an area where this fabled city was suppose to be. And guess what they found the city was real not a fable after all. I'm impressed that the trails they say are centuries old and yet they remained enough for us to find. The city was mostly buried but funny the locals knew about it for generations. Same as many of the jungle hidden cities in South America. Locals knew of them but never said anything either out of old respect or taboo. I'm really wondering what their going to find about that submerged city the found off the coast of North Africa. And didn't they find a submerged city off the coast of Asia not too long ago, part of a civilization they say built a connecting land bridge connecting a string of islands possibly all the way to mainland Asia. Think they say they found a string of underwater roads.
     
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    Hey Gordon what do you think about that study where they are trying to identify strands of DNA that connect us with our past ancestors like neanderthal. This guy is trying to prove that all our as hominis are within our DNA. His thing is that many of our choices are influenced by our ancient instincts like eating meat. What do you think. Could be interesting if they find enough strands in our DNA but it took years to find the few they found so it could be decades to get enough evidence. I think it's amazing they have been able to collect enough DNA to compare. Wonder what they might find in the Siberian and Canadian tundras.
     
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    Yeah, heard of that one I think. Interesting stuff.
     
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    My cousins would pass for Neanderthal rejects.
     
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