Damn I knew that was way to easy ...Bish, the floor is yours. [img]smile.gif[/img]

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I will get round to this. I posted a reply without thinking that all my books are in storage and as i've been away from the topic for so long i've forgotton almost everything. But i will think of something, even if its an easy one [img]smile.gif[/img]

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Seems it's time for a new question...


What were the two ways to disguise a Firefly among normal Shermans?

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Variously, the following were tried:

Underpainting of the lower portion of the gun barrel white to make it appear shorter. This was tried on a number of vehicles other than the Firefly as well.

Adding a false muzzle brake made of sheetmetal at about the point where the 75mm would end to make the gun appear shorter again.

Using camoflauge netting wrapped around the barrel to break up the outline of the gun making it blend into the background better. Nature abbhores a straight line.....

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Ok, all of these methods are similar, but there was another.

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Although it appears to be more rarely done, occasionally a 75mm Sherman was given a false gun barrel (the one's I've seen appear to be welded on alongside the real gun) to make the tank appear to be a Firefly. Of course, I'm sure most crews were readily willing to increase their likelihood of being targetted......

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And yet there is another one.

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Are you still searching, T.A., or is it better to give the solution?

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Dummy barrel sticking out of the rear and the turret reversed.

Would it have something to do with camoflaguing the "addition" to the turret which took the recoil of the 17pdr, made the Firefly turret very distinctive.
(I cant imaging anyone wanting their Sherman to look like a Firefly, picked on first time)

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m kenny is right. Despite T.A.'s answers (it's his turn so often), over to you.

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As kenny seems not to want to...

could you continue, T. A.?

[ 16. May 2004, 03:04 AM: Message edited by: KnightMove ]

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*bump* TA, your turn man

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Alright, an "easy" one. What is the Kromuskit system?

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There's very little info on the web. A recoilless rifle?

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Be a bit more specific.

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Hmmmmmmmmm... A recoiless Mortar??? A kinda WW2 LAWS???

"In the U.S., inventors Kroger and Musser formed the basis for the shape of U.S. recoilless rifle developments in their Kromuskit design. This design was superior to both the German designs and the Burney rifles in that the driving band featured the rifling already on it, unlike the previous designs which forced a copper ring into the rifling to impart spin. Thus, less gas pressure was to be had and by consequence, the weapon could be made lighter."

"During WWII, US Army ordnance developed a
recoilless 60mm mortar. Intended as a direct-fire weapon, it got around the two problems of drop-firing and
recoil by using (A) a small solid-fuel rocket on
the nose of the bomb, pointing forward, and (B)
a rear-mounted venturi system similar to the
75mm "Kromuskit" RR. The drill was as follows;

1. Place bomb in muzzle (in "hang" position)
2. Attach (8-foot) firing lanyard to rocket,
remove safety pin, step back
3. Yank lanyard, igniting rocket
4. Rocket thrust pushes bomb back into tube
(hard) and onto fixed firing pin
5. Bomb propellant (the traditional shotgun
cartridge arrangement) fires, launching
bomb out muzzle, and
6. Blast of gas comes out venturi, giving
recoilless effect.

Reportedly, the Infantry School took one look at
it- and odered production of the 57mm recoilless
rifle be given top priority instead.
More to the point, we have had "direct-fire
mortar"- type weapons in service since 1942.
Bazookas, 3.5in rocket launchers, M72 LAW,
AT-4, SMAW, etc."

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Well, Red, you managed to hit it with the shotgun approach. Simply put it was the US recoilless rifle system like Britain's Burney system or the Bohler system of Germany (developed into production by Krupp and Rhinemetall) or, the granddaddy of them all the Davis system of WW 1.
The reason it came to be called Kromuskit was a result of a concatonation of the two designer's names as a corporate trade name.
Your turn.

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An easy one...

Which country used the Lahti-Salonranta LMG???

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Finland and China ?

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Hope this picture comes out:

Lahti/Saloranta m/26 LMG

An L/S model 26 with shoulder strap and a stack of extra 20-round magazines. Picture from the factory brochure

Finland!

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Finland,

Martin got in there first Maverik, Sorry...

RED

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Very quick one.....the RAF had major problems trying to fit 20mm cannon to Spitfires during the Battle of Britain - the guns wouldn't 'feed' properly.

What was the basic cause of the problem ?

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Ammo available was 25mm

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