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As I tried to say before, this does not include (white for "Hospital Ships") and un-recognized (yet used) individual ideas. (per Captain)
__________________ "Yet it is eyes which blind the man,"....
"Because a man can see, he does not look."
half of a 55 gal drum (one of many welded together, with what looks like pipe between the 2 rows to keep from rocking), and taken at Fort Leonardwood Missouri during "basic".
Tough to tell by grass type alone.
__________________ "Yet it is eyes which blind the man,"....
"Because a man can see, he does not look."
They may be 55 gal drums, etc, but they were given a specific name by the person who proposed this object and had it built. The photo was not made at Fort Leonard Wood. It was overseas.
I have a larger pic of it but I can't upload it. I could if I knew how to remove old pics.
I hope the guy that proposed it, also rode in it, with the flame thrower, and the tanks exposed (to small arms fire) like that. It's only fair.
It's a Cattamaran to either pull up or slide down troops on muddy hills ?
__________________ "Yet it is eyes which blind the man,"....
"Because a man can see, he does not look."
The battle sled, invented by Brig. Gen. John W. O'Daniel (Truscott's successor as commander of the 3d Division), was half a torpedo shell, just large enough to hold one soldier lying down. Six were hooked together and attached to each side of a tank and the twelve sleds were pulled forward in the paths made by the tank's tracks, enabling an infantry squad to accompany a tank without being exposed to small arms fire and antipersonnel mines. After O'Daniel sent Ordnance a sketch of what he wanted, Colonel Jaynes and his staff developed a model with runners, to prevent heat from friction, and made the sleds in an atmosphere of the greatest secrecy in a field near the Capua shops. They set up a production line, using 80 welding sets in stalls under a big circus tent, and with the expert supervision of Sergeant Sellfors as chief welder, Fifth Army and PBS mechanics working in 8- hour shifts manufactured 360 sleds between 29 April and 14 May.
All the sleds were used in the breakout at Anzio. The worst impediments were ditches and mines that immobilized the tanks. In one regiment a platoon of tanks and four sets of sleds failed to get into action because of rough ground and the loss of several tanks from mines; in another, the results were negligible because the terrain was unsuitable; in a third unit, the towed infantry, supported by the tanks, took a strongly fortified house. Infantrymen were not enthusiastic about the sleds because they felt like "dead ducks" lying so close behind the tanks. General O'Daniel felt that the combat test was not conclusive, and that these special devices should be employed against organized positions when terrain and antitank defenses permitted. Half the sleds were salvaged from the battlefield and used in the invasion of southern France.
The same reason most Tiger I crews removed the first outside Bogie wheel ? It jamed with mud/rocks and either broke the track or threw it. In the Churchills case, perhaps sand either pushed it off, or crews (to avoid the problem), removed them ?
Panther "D" had that junk too, not seen again in the "A" or "G" versions.
Designers PROPOSE...users DISPOSE
__________________ "Yet it is eyes which blind the man,"....
"Because a man can see, he does not look."
A better name might be "Death Gliders".
On "Par" with the German attempt to add infantry support to Ferdinands by "Jerry-Rigging" platforms (mildly armored) on the rear of the TD. These poor fellas suffered badly at the hands of the Russians and accomplished little.
A candidate for the foolish weapon thread ?
__________________ "Yet it is eyes which blind the man,"....
"Because a man can see, he does not look."
The "infantry platforms" on Ferdinands / Elefants is not supported by either photographic or historical evidence, nor is the myth of their failure as a weapons system at Kursk. Elefants proved relatively effective there and afterwards on the Eastern Front fighting there all the way to the end of the war.
A better name might be "Death Gliders".
On "Par" with the German attempt to add infantry support to Ferdinands by "Jerry-Rigging" platforms (mildly armored) on the rear of the TD. These poor fellas suffered badly at the hands of the Russians and accomplished little.
A candidate for the foolish weapon thread ?
Yes, very much a candidate. I have a photo of the German gem you described, but I can't find it. It looked like a trailer on sleds, maybe took the body of of a SdKfz 8, mounted it on a sled and plated over the sides and pulled it behind a AFV.
Skunk Works you are right, please continue.
They removed them, not becase sand would get stuck beneath, but becase the tracks with mudguards on throw sand toward drivers causing visibility problems.
Gerry Chester, North Irish Horse: KingForce
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