Name this Naval Vessel - Page 3

Slipdigit · #51 (**permalink**) October 28th, 2009, 01:47 AM

Name this ship. Photo was made in 1940.

formerjughead · #52 (**permalink**) October 28th, 2009, 03:40 AM

HMS Ark Royal

Slipdigit · #53 (**permalink**) October 28th, 2009, 02:00 PM

No, not the Ark Royal. It was a carrier, wasn't it?

Gromit801 · #54 (**permalink**) October 28th, 2009, 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Slipdigit

Name this ship. Photo was made in 1940.

Italian, Littorio Class

formerjughead · #55 (**permalink**) October 28th, 2009, 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Slipdigit

No, not the Ark Royal. It was a carrier, wasn't it?

I thought it was converted from a battleship/cruiser.

Gromit801 · #56 (**permalink**) October 28th, 2009, 05:14 PM

As an aside, the HMS Ark Royal was built from the keel up as an aircraft carrier. Maybe you're thinking of the old HMS Royal Oak? Sunk by Prien in Scapa Flow.

mikebatzel · #57 (**permalink**) October 28th, 2009, 05:21 PM

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I thought it was converted from a battleship/cruiser.

No, the Ark Royal was purpose built in the mid to late 30's. The first Ark Royal, built in 1914 and renamed Pegasus in 1934, was a conversion, but she was converted from a incomplete cargo ship.

formerjughead · #58 (**permalink**) October 28th, 2009, 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Gromit801

As an aside, the HMS Ark Royal was built from the keel up as an aircraft carrier. Maybe you're thinking of the old HMS Royal Oak? Sunk by Prien in Scapa Flow.

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Originally Posted by mikebatzel

No, the Ark Royal was purpose built in the mid to late 30's. The first Ark Royal, built in 1914 and renamed Pegasus in 1934, was a conversion, but she was converted from a incomplete cargo ship.

A simple "No" is sufficient..............geeze O'Pete with gravy!!! Now I am going to have to go find that ship and blow it up, out of spite, and forge the salvage steel into caltrops to place in your driveways.

formerjughead · #59 (**permalink**) October 28th, 2009, 05:46 PM

RM Vittorio Veneto.

Gromit801 · #60 (**permalink**) October 28th, 2009, 06:03 PM

... or the Italia. Same ship had two different names, which is why I answered previously as Littorio Class.

mikebatzel · #61 (**permalink**) October 28th, 2009, 06:09 PM

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A simple "No" is sufficient..............geeze O'Pete with gravy!!! Now I am going to have to go find that ship and blow it up, out of spite, and forge the salvage steel into caltrops to place in your driveways.

Alright, memorabilia! Just make sure I get a rangefinder

. Oh and an anchor. Just don't forge it into anything. As is is fine

mikebatzel · #62 (**permalink**) October 28th, 2009, 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Gromit801

... or the Italia. Same ship had two different names, which is why I answered previously as Littorio Class.

I thought Littorio was renamed to Italia?
The pic is definitely Littorio/Italia though.

Gromit801 · #63 (**permalink**) October 28th, 2009, 06:23 PM

Now if Slipdigit will just tell me I got it, we'll proceed! lol

formerjughead · #64 (**permalink**) October 28th, 2009, 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Gromit801

... or the Italia. Same ship had two different names, which is why I answered previously as Littorio Class.

Nope...not going to work there were four ships in that class:

The Vittorio, The Littorio (Italia), The Roma and The Impera...........so merely saying it is a certain class of ship is insufficient. If it were meant to be that easy Jeff would have asked: "what class of ship is this?" instead of: "name this ship?"

I'll go back to forging caltrops

Gromit801 · #65 (**permalink**) October 28th, 2009, 08:23 PM

A "class" answer has been sufficient in other answers in her before, when there has been no for certain way to tell one form the other.

However, the pic being taken in 1940, it could still be one of two (possibly three) ships.

Slipdigit · #66 (**permalink**) October 28th, 2009, 09:12 PM

It is the Littorio.

Go ahead Grommit.

Gromit801 · #67 (**permalink**) October 28th, 2009, 09:14 PM

Thank you kind sir: Next...

Slipdigit · #68 (**permalink**) October 28th, 2009, 09:20 PM

USS Alaska?

TiredOldSoldier · #69 (**permalink**) October 28th, 2009, 09:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Gromit801

A "class" answer has been sufficient in other answers in her before, when there has been no for certain way to tell one form the other.

However, the pic being taken in 1940, it could still be one of two (possibly three) ships.

If the pic is 1940 it rules out Roma and Impero that were still in a much less advanced state, Impero was actually never finished. Had the pic been from the other side Roma had only one anchor and her sisters two but all 3 ships had one anchor on the side shown.

I have pics of both Vittorio Veneto and Littorio at their intial trials and the line of the bow matches the pic (it was modified by lengthening it after the intial trials). My guess would be Littorio as Vittorio apparently did her trials wth the top part of her mainmast installed and the ship in the picture is missing it.

BTW for me Littorio class is a good enough answer, the two early sisters were nearly identical and in the incomplete state shown the small differences in light AA are just not there yet.

OOPS late by a few minutes while looking up pictures.

How can you distinguish Alaska from Guam ?