Name this Naval Vessel - Page 5

GermanTankEnthusiast · #**101** (**permalink**) November 2nd, 2009, 10:53 AM

where is the setting? look at all those oil derrick looking towers in the background.

R Leonard · #**102** (**permalink**) November 2nd, 2009, 01:40 PM

TOS - Lapwing class? Yes, originally.

GTE - Location? Can't say for sure, but photo is from 1944-1945 period and judging from the places this ship was during that time period, I'd say, perhaps, Long Beach CA.

Hint - a dead give-away - this ship is often mistaken for an aircraft carrier by those who do not read carefully and jump to conclusions.

mikebatzel · #**103** (**permalink**) November 2nd, 2009, 03:17 PM

USS Teal AVP-5?

R Leonard · #**104** (**permalink**) November 2nd, 2009, 03:24 PM

No, not USS Teal

T. A. Gardner · #**105** (**permalink**) November 2nd, 2009, 03:39 PM

AM-14 / AT-146 / ATO-145 Woodcock?

R Leonard · #**106** (**permalink**) November 2nd, 2009, 05:18 PM

Nope, not Woodcock, but you guys are dancing all around it. Read the hint carefully.

mikebatzel · #**107** (**permalink**) November 2nd, 2009, 05:20 PM

USS Avocet (AVP-4)?
Was the ship at Pearl on Dec 7?

R Leonard · #**108** (**permalink**) November 2nd, 2009, 05:29 PM

No, not Avocet. Not at Pearl Harbor on 7 Dec 1941. Didn't get there until the 10th.

mikebatzel · #**109** (**permalink**) November 2nd, 2009, 07:20 PM

Not Avocet or Teal.
Heron was in the PI on 12/7/41 so it cant be her. Cant be Swan who was also present at Pearl durring the attack.
Gannet, Lapwig, Sandpiper, and Thrush were all in the Atlantic.

That leaves only Partridge left as one of the class that had been converted to a tender in the Pacific at the time. Unless I missed another hint.

TiredOldSoldier · #**110** (**permalink**) November 2nd, 2009, 07:25 PM

There were "only" 48 Lapwing originally.
Assuming it's one of those converted to seaplane tender (AVP) this is the info I found for 7-Dec-41 positions.

Lapwing - Wrong fleet (Atlantic)
Avocet - Was at Pearl on 7-Dec-41 (even credited with a Kate)
Heron - Was in the Philippines on 7-Dec-41
Swan - Was at Pearl on 7-Dec-41
Gannet - Was in Bermuda
Sandpiper - Was in the Carribean,
Pellican - Was in west coast
Teal - Was it the Aleutians
Thrush - Was in Brazil

None seems to fit with your story except possibly Heron

AFAIK Partridge was refitted as a tug not a tender

R Leonard · #**111** (**permalink**) November 2nd, 2009, 07:28 PM

But I don't think I ever said it was an AVP. What I said was "this ship is often mistaken for an aircraft carrier by those who do not read carefully and jump to conclusions"

Hint 2 . . . and not a US aircraft carrier at that.

R Leonard · #**112** (**permalink**) November 4th, 2009, 12:12 AM

Are you guys telling me that no one can think of a single aircraft carrier that the popular, but incorrect, history, especially on the internet, identifies as being named for a bird at some point in time?

mikebatzel · #**113** (**permalink**) November 4th, 2009, 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by R Leonard

Are you guys telling me that no one can think of a single aircraft carrier that the popular, but incorrect, history, especially on the internet, identifies as being named for a bird at some point in time?

Unfortunately your clues have only confused me further. I personally have not heard of a carrier named after one of the class in question. your clue stating "this ship is often mistaken for an aircraft carrier by those who do not read carefully and jump to conclusions" only led me to assume a tender as I know they are generally assumed to be carriers by the uninformed.

The best hint I have been using is the arrived at Pearl on 10 Dec. and of course the class type. I did a quick look at all 48 ships in the class and found one that come close, leaving for Pearl on the 10th, but not arriving until the 21st to assist with salvage work. That would be the Ortolan, but I don't think that is correct as the funnel appears to large compared to the pic you posted.

Others may get it but for me, you win, post another.

R Leonard · #**114** (**permalink**) November 5th, 2009, 12:41 AM

Okay, how about USS Robin - the name some think was assigned to HMS Victorious during her sojourn in the South Pacific in company with USS Saratoga. Actually "Robin" was the radio code for Victorious, thus evolved a joke, "USS Robin" that many today think is fact. The USN was, and is, loath to allow two ships to share the same name at the same time, especially in the same theatre, and, of course, the Admiralty was, is, not going to allow one of its ships to be called, however temporary, USS anything.

Someone else go, all I have handy is a picture of a well known cruiser.

Rich

107thcav · #**115** (**permalink**) November 5th, 2009, 12:48 AM

USS ALABAMA BB. Beautiful ship had the pleasure of checking out her hull. She's quite a lady.

Slipdigit · #**116** (**permalink**) November 5th, 2009, 01:32 AM

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Originally Posted by 107thcav

USS ALABAMA BB. Beautiful ship had the pleasure of checking out her hull. She's quite a lady.

psssst....107thCav....that was the first question in this thread. We're about 5 pages beyond that.

Oh and thanks for complimenting the old girl. She is a beauty, isn't she?

TiredOldSoldier · #**117** (**permalink**) November 5th, 2009, 08:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by R Leonard

Okay, how about USS Robin - the name some think was assigned to HMS Victorious during her sojourn in the South Pacific in company with USS Saratoga. Actually "Robin" was the radio code for Victorious, thus evolved a joke, "USS Robin" that many today think is fact. The USN was, and is, loath to allow two ships to share the same name at the same time, especially in the same theatre, and, of course, the Admiralty was, is, not going to allow one of its ships to be called, however temporary, USS anything.

Someone else go, all I have handy is a picture of a well known cruiser.

Rich

I was looking if any of the class was named Eagle ........ didn't think about Victorious.

My favourite magazine just published a series about, of all things, "funnel fashion styles in warships", you just can't be serious all the time, this is one of the pictures. I only want the central ship but full points for guessing all the others.

funnels_01.jpg

Hint: the article was organized by nationality and ship type .......

T. A. Gardner · #**118** (**permalink**) November 6th, 2009, 03:02 PM

Its either Fuso as completed about 1915.

TiredOldSoldier · #**119** (**permalink**) November 6th, 2009, 06:22 PM

Yes it's Fuso in her original aspect
1) Is still Fuso with a funnel cap on the fore funnel
2) Is Fuso (or Yamashiro) with funnels reduced to 1
3) Is Ise with orginal two funnels
4) Is Ise with 1 funnel
5) Is either Nagato or Mutsu in the early twenties
6) Is Nagato in the late twenties whit that incredible S shaped fore funnel
7) Is Nagato in her single funnel guise

T. A. Gardner · #**120** (**permalink**) November 6th, 2009, 09:17 PM

How about this one?

RAM · #**121** (**permalink**) November 6th, 2009, 10:01 PM

It looks like an old whaler converted into a mine sweeper.
Is it an MG or a harpoon gun on the fore deck?

T. A. Gardner · #**122** (**permalink**) November 6th, 2009, 10:42 PM

It's a 3"/23 left over from WW 1. Converted trawler actually....

TiredOldSoldier · #**123** (**permalink**) November 7th, 2009, 07:46 AM

Tried to trace her through the gun but no joy, my usual reference site doesn't even list classes for the 3"/23

USA 3"/23 (7.62 cm) Marks 4, 7, 9, 11, 13 and 14

RAM · #**124** (**permalink**) November 8th, 2009, 09:33 PM

Is this vessel famous in one context or another?

107thcav · #**125** (**permalink**) November 8th, 2009, 09:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Slipdigit

psssst....107thCav....that was the first question in this thread. We're about 5 pages beyond that.

Oh and thanks for complimenting the old girl. She is a beauty, isn't she?

Sorry, still new.