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Gotha Ka 430 glider ??? designed by Albert Kalkert (sometimes referred to as the 'Kalkert 430')
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Wow that was quick good job! back to you...
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June 22nd, 2009, 11:45 PM
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Ok guys how about this one:
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Weren't those the Gliders Hitler planned to use during Sea Lion but couldn't because he didn't have aircraft big enough to tow them? And wasn't then when he combined 2 He-111 (I think), removed one of the plane's engines, and combined them for a tri-plane?
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That was the Me 321 Gigant a much larger plane, and the He111Z acually had 5 engines, four from the original He 111 and a fitth in the wing section that tied together the two fuselages without removing the original two.
Heinkel He 111Z - glider towing aircraft
Messerschmitt Me 321 - transport glider
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June 26th, 2009, 06:13 PM
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Sorry to keep you guys hanging on ... been a bit too busy to look for another 'good one' to throw at y'all ... feel free to jump in ... if not, I'll try and find one later this evening.
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Well in the meantime then how about this...
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June 27th, 2009, 05:30 PM
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Not giving us much to go on with this one Jag ...  ... There is some kind of emblem/insignia on the rudder, but I can't make it out ... Hmmmmm!!
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June 27th, 2009, 06:55 PM
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A5M Japanese fighter. The predecessor to the A6M "Zero" or "Zeke".
Epic win.
A5M Type 96 carrier-based fighter. The first Japanese aircraft designed for carrier duties. Also known as the "Claude" Allied naval code.
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June 27th, 2009, 08:13 PM
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Not giving us much to go on with this one Jag ...  ... There is some kind of emblem/insignia on the rudder, but I can't make it out ... Hmmmmm!!
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Well lets see...it is a russian fighter. It was the only one built and it had 4 45mm cannons.
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June 27th, 2009, 08:52 PM
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My initial feeling was similar to MastahCheef's, in that is was Japanese ... the long-chord cowling resembled a Mitsubishi or a Nate.
But, it was the position of the tail-fin that drew me toward a Russian design ... So, I'm going for a "Grigorovich IP-4."
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My initial feeling was similar to MastahCheef's, in that is was Japanese ... the long-chord cowling resembled a Mitsubishi or a Nate.
But, it was the position of the tail-fin that drew me toward a Russian design ... So, I'm going for a "Grigorovich IP-4."
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Right again, it is the Grigorocich IP-4, a smaller version of the IP-1, only one built. Back to you...
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My initial feeling was similar to MastahCheef's, in that is was Japanese ... the long-chord cowling resembled a Mitsubishi or a Nate.
But, it was the position of the tail-fin that drew me toward a Russian design ... So, I'm going for a "Grigorovich IP-4."
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Think you got it Grigorovich IP-4 (DG-53) - fighter
My guess was soviet as the cowling arrangement is practically identical to an I-16 but the position of the tail elevators had me baffled, the only other ww2 plane that I can think of with that configuration is the Me 262 !!
4x45mm looks a lot of firepower, AFAIK the only soviet 45mm aircraft gun that saw service was the NS-45 that fired a powerful cartridge and a shell derived from the one of the standard AT gun, putting four of the things in a small single engined plane looks a bit of an overkill, the recoil would be something fierce!!!.
EDIT: Found reference to the gun, the experimental 45 mm Kurchevski APK-11 recoilless makes more sense than the later NS-45, apparently the IP-4 was designed around it. The need to keep the elevators away from the backblast of the guns could also explain the unusual configuration.
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My guess was soviet as the cowling arrangement is practically identical to an I-16 but the position of the tail elevators had me baffled, the only other ww2 plane that I can think of with that configuration is the Me 262 !! .........
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Confusing all round T/O/S ... the cowling actually had me leaning towards Japanese along with MastahCheef ... then, after closer scrutiny the tail elevators steered me in the direction of Soviet (I was still searching when Jag posted the clue) reminded me of the Tupolev ... Tupolev ANT-31 (I-14) - fighter
Anyway ... it would seem the 'cat is out the bag' where "aviastar.org" is concerned  although not 100% complete, it's still an invaluable source of aircraft images !! (But not the only one  ) I'll have to extend my library of "USAF WWII Bombers" & "RAF WWII Bombers" and make better use of my scanner ...
Will try and post a "Doozie" for y'all tomorrow.
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June 28th, 2009, 01:04 PM
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Okay chaps ... have a crack at this one ...
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June 28th, 2009, 10:38 PM
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hmmm...could you possibly tell us the country of origin? I would guess it is czech from the design on the tail?
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June 28th, 2009, 11:27 PM
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I'm guessing mid-late 20's. Maybe a French plane leased to them? France made some crazy early planes.
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June 29th, 2009, 12:58 AM
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hmmm...could you possibly tell us the country of origin? I would guess it is czech from the design on the tail?
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Czech, is correct Jag ...
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I'm guessing mid-late 20's. Maybe a French plane leased to them? France made some crazy early planes.
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Also correct on the decade Cheef ...
Do you lot want me to tell you the pilots name as well ...
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June 29th, 2009, 01:25 AM
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Well going off of that info I would say it is a Avia BH-4
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June 29th, 2009, 03:47 AM
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Well obviously, because if you look it up and go to images it's there lol
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June 29th, 2009, 04:23 AM
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Well obviously, because if you look it up and go to images it's there lol
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Doh!! Kindda shot myself in the foot with the clues there ...    ... Never mind.
You are correct, none the less Jag ... You're "IT".
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June 29th, 2009, 04:24 AM
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Well obviously, because if you look it up and go to images it's there lol
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Haha well yea I am pretty confident with my answer...
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June 29th, 2009, 06:41 AM
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Doh!! Kindda shot myself in the foot with the clues there ...    ... Never mind.
You are correct, none the less Jag ... You're "IT".
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Ok guys have a crack at this one.
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June 29th, 2009, 07:22 PM
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What is that flag on the tail rudder? At first I thought Austrian or something lol. It obviously isn't a fighter, but then again the Japanese made the Ki-45 twin-seat fighter... soooooo...
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What is that flag on the tail rudder? At first I thought Austrian or something lol. It obviously isn't a fighter, but then again the Japanese made the Ki-45 twin-seat fighter... soooooo...
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Haha I'm gunna try not to give away too much too fast on this one. For now I will tell you that it is a pre war light bomber, NOT Austrian.
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Not German... I have a feeling the bars are red and the rest of the flag is yellow... where have I seen that before... Spain? But then they were neutral... DAMMIT
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