When I read up on it the source said it was a bomber destroyer. That concept was tried by the UK, Germany, and perhaps France. That is what I base my forecast on. It may not even be able to go as fast as a JU-88. Just a Yugo with wings ?

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OK, here's the next one....

Oh thats easy - it's a Messerfire or Spitschmidt

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jerry mk 9 spitfire .

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I'll give it to Kruska. It is in fact Supermarine Spitfire Vb - coded EN830 / CJ+ZY fitted with a DB605A after being captured by the Luftwaffe.

Okay no Joke okay

It is a captured Spitfire MK V with a DB 605 Engine.

Thanks wh1skea, www.luftarchiv.de

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Okay here we go,

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I have seen that picture before but I don't have enough brain cells to remember where. Excellent camoflage job !

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Kalinin K-12 (BS-2) Zhar Ptitsa (Firebird)

The Kalinin K-12 was a scaled-down three-seat prototype proof-of-concept aircraft for a far larger tailless bomber, the K-13 bomber, this bird flew pretty well, despite having no tail. Also known as the BS-2 or the Zhar-Ptitsa (Firebird), this pre-WW2 Russian design is credited to K.A. Kalinin.

Design began at Voronezh in 1934. A glider of similar lines, with a 29 ft. 6½ in. (9.0 m) span made a hundred flights before the K-12 was proceeded with. The K-12 flew in autumn 1936 and was demonstrated at Tushino on 18th August 1937, in a garish colour scheme representing a bird. The aircraft was of welded steel-tube construction with fabric covering, and was powered by two 480 hp M-22 radial engines. It featured dummy nose and tail turrets.

Work on the scaled-up K-12 ended when Kalinin was arrested in spring 1938 and his design bureau disbanded and reportedly shot.

Dimensions:
Span: 68ft 8.75in / 20.95m
Length: 33ft 10.25in / 10.32m
Weights:
Empty: 6,768lb / 3,070kg
Fuel/oil: 1,102lb / 500kg
Loaded: 9,259lb / 4,200kg
Performance:
Engine- 2 PE M-22
Power - 2 @ 480 hp
Maximum speed - 228 km/h
Cruising speed - 189 km/h
Max speed: 136mph / 219km/h
Service ceiling: 23,524ft / 7,170m
Range: 435 miles / 700km
Crew - 3
Armament: - 2 7.62-mm machine-guns ShKAS
Bombs - 500 kg

References:
VAR. Aviation WWII.Bombers
Unreal Aircraft - Weird Wings - Kalinin K-12

Take care,
Salty

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Here is some interesting information about K. A. Kalinin.
The crash of K-7 was neither forgotten nor forgiven, and in 1938 Konstantin Kalinin was arrested, accused of espionage and sabotage, and executed by NKVD reportedly after the crash of the K-12 in which 4 people were killed, (The Great Purge of 1934-1939, largest part during '37-'39). There were charges of sabatoge and treason against him and Yosef Neman. Interestingly, Neman was already in prison at this time in which both aircraft designers were forced to continue working on designs they never saw completed or flown. There seems to be conflicting data on whether Kalinin was shot or died of injuries from being tortured in 1938. Information seems to be sketchy at best after the K-12 was shown at the Tushino Air Parade in 1937. In fact on any Soviet aircraft manufacturer sites all information about him or the K-12 stops, abruptly. Supposedly Tupelov may have had a hand in the demise of his career and aircraft company.

Anyway here is the next aircraft.

Take care,
Salty

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Excellent poser! I worked on that one off and on since you posted it. I DID have to take some time off my search for work and such.


tom

Bachem Ba 349 Natter. Dangerous mostly to it's own test pilots.

tom

Right you are Tom, but it was only dangerous once. Over to you.
Bill, aka Salty

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Thanks, Salty.

Here 'tis:

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Vultee Model 48 aka P-48 (NX 21755)

Got it. YOUR turn.

tom

Hmmm...maybe P-66?

Image:Vultee P-66 Vanguard, Model 48 in flight with original long nose cowling 061024-F-1234P-029.jpg - Wikimedia Commons

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That one I swear I've never seen! How obscure can you get?

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The aircraft shown is the prototype Vultee Model 48 which was the basis for the P-48 and carried the (as seen on the wing) civil registration number NX21775. The eventual P-66 was the Model 48C (NX28300) of which 144 were ordered in February 1940 by Sweden. An embargo on export of war materials to Sweden in September 1941 resulted in the entire order being taken over by Britain.
But, the British only took the first two aircraft (BW208 and BW209) and then turned over the rest to the US. The US took over the whole order and Lend-Leased 129 of 144 to China as the P-66. All 129 had arrived in China by April 1942. The balance of the 144 ended up in USAAF use as advanced trainers.

Hello T.A. Gardner,

the following webpage also gives a good account on your forwardings.

The Vultee P-66 in Chinese service

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I will put out anouther easy one to keep things going. Name the aircraft and it's F number. eg F-14 or F-18

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