Well, you take a pen, I'll take a sword and we'll see who lasts longer in a fight.

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There's no honorable way to kill, no gentle way to destroy. There is nothing good in war. Except its ending.

Ahhh but since I would be wielding it at home and not on the front you would have to find me LOL.

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For the first time I have seen "History" at close quarters,and I know that its actual process is very different from what is presented to Posterity. - WWI General Max Hoffman.

Garand and Springfield are my favourite rifles~~~~
Tommy is another good choice~~~

My wife at a certain time of the....no Ill stop there....

wow, this thread got off topic in a hurry! hehehehe!

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OK, if I have to be serious and cant take the wife, I'd have to play by the rules. Judging that my dad was in RN in ww2, I'd have to put myself back to that location, so I'm British, called up I dont get that much of a choice. Im either in Navy, Army, or RAF, Im not an officer coming from my social background at the time, which thru education at that time also, I might want to fly a spitfire but they aint going to let me, so I'm not even considered for technical duties in RAF. Leaves me with RN or Army. If the RN get me Im probably going below decks and will be lucky to pull a 303 at all hands to bathing stations.....If Army as most didnt get to serve on front line duty, I have a better than average chance of ending up in support services. Again nothing technical due to level of schooling at that time for my historical social background, so looks like I'm cooking, blanket stacking or sorting out the pay books...lucky me, my chances of surviving have just been increased unless I'm down for infantry but its fair bet I wont be that either. So either way, as much as I'd like to be flying spits, serving with LRDG behind enemy lines, Ramming my LCI on to Normandy beaches or rolling forward in my brand new Firefly thru western Europe, I'll probably have a 303 somewhere close by and maybe under lock and key unless someone shouts oh christ theyve broken thru...

Much easier in the 70's, social standing improved, all volunteer....joined when they needed em not feeding em...Stefan put that pie down.

Sorry, but we were being serious weren't we?

Kinda hard to wield a tank dontcha think? A little heavy and cumbersome. BTW the MP44/StG44 used the 7.92x33mm Kurz round. The German sniper rifles used the standard 7.92x57mm IS round.

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For the first time I have seen "History" at close quarters,and I know that its actual process is very different from what is presented to Posterity. - WWI General Max Hoffman.

Looks like Koningstiger502's little comment about be a "gr8 adorer of Adolf Hitler" got him the boot LOL . I was waiting for his response LOL.

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For the first time I have seen "History" at close quarters,and I know that its actual process is very different from what is presented to Posterity. - WWI General Max Hoffman.

I took care of him , you won't see him again .

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I noticed LOL . I really wanted to hear how he would wield a King Tiger . It is funny though to see some of our former members showing up for a visit too LOL.

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For the first time I have seen "History" at close quarters,and I know that its actual process is very different from what is presented to Posterity. - WWI General Max Hoffman.

Sorry mate, pay as you dine beat you to it!

Interesting post though. I guess if I were to work it out seriously I'd have had to look at the two sides of my family. My grandfather had working class parents but won a scholarship to the grammar school, was in the OTC and Home Guard before commissioning shortly before his 19th birthday (I think). He was posted to an infantry battallion and went off to do infantry things in Italy. In terms of weaponry? Well he had various things at various times, usually a pistol of enemy origin (a P38 or baretta apparently, his issue pistol being confined to his pack for the duration) and either a rifle or thompson when he managed to pinch one. Keep in mind however that the army in Italy was hardly known for being strict about that kind of thing but he did explain that he kept what he was issued and carried other weapons to make him less easily identifiable as an officer.

On the other side, well my grandfather was sent down a mine for the duration, his weapons were a pick and a sense of humour about the fact he originally applied for the RAF like my great uncle. Either case, no option when it comes to weapons.

Good idea Urqh.

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Maybe he waged a tougher war.

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Regardless of what nation I was with, I would fancy using the Japanese type 99 LMG

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"Zey send zer hounds! zey to vill find only death!"

Assume you are with the Jewish Brigade in Italy, where and how will you get ammunition for your toy, ebay?

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True, true, and hed get a few funny looks from guys leaning over 303 Lee Enfields with bush hats on.....

If we can do that then.... Im in 15 inch gun turret of any well known British Battleship.....
In Berlin.

I've only recently begun to realise how true this was. Sent at 18 to a very peroquial village, for a farmer to be sent down a filthy hole in the ground, not a good start. He was involved in numerous cave-ins and had flecks of coal in his hands until the day he died.

An incredible man, sorely missed.

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There's no honorable way to kill, no gentle way to destroy. There is nothing good in war. Except its ending.

For close combat the Ithaca model 37 combat shotgun. A friend of mine used one for walking point in Vietnam and he said there was no finer weapon for throwing a lot of FP on an enemy at close range and on short notice. The article says that the Ithacas were first issued in WWII and does anyone know where and if they saw use? ITHACA MODEL 37 SHOTGUN I would guess they were issued for jungle fighters but they might have also been used in urban combat in European cities.
For general use the M-1 Garand was the finest combat rifle of WWII. I shot a repro a few yrs back and it was a joy to handle. Top of my list of "to get" firearms.
JeffinMNUSA
PS. For longer ranges the M1903A1 sniper rifle; http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A_81I...eature=related

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M-1 Grand and a 1911 colt .45

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If I was in the Jewish Brigade? I would do it the same ways soldiers build radios in concentration camps: somehow and with lots of patience.

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-Dustin

"Zey send zer hounds! zey to vill find only death!"

My mother's youngest brother served in the Marines during WW II. While he was on Oahu on his way out to the Pacific, he and another guy were trying to sneak back onto base after a little unauthorized leave. One of the sentries was trigger-happy and shot him in the butt leaving him with a bad limp, and fit only for limited duty. The Marines sent him back to the States where he was put to work guarding various military installations and facilities on the West Coast. He was issued a 12 gauge pump shot gun for this job. The first one was a Winchester Model 12, but later he received a Savage Model 37 pump shotgun. He managed to keep the Savage and left it to me when he died about 12 years ago. He once told me that most of the military shotguns issued during WW II were used for guarding storage and other military facilities.

A few did turn up in the hands of Marines in the Pacific where they were tried in Jungle warfare, but from what I understand, they weren't very popular unless the Marines could get their hands on full-length brass shotshells. They found that the regular paper shells (plastic shells didn't appear until the late 1950's) absorbed moisture in the tropics and swelled up, either refusing to be chambered, or jamming in the chamber after firing. The military started volume loading of full brass shotshells towards the end of the war.

Advocate;
Unreliable ammo then? "Ya can't have it. Guns that jam, cars that won't start, women who cheat-ya can't have it." a wise old man once said. A pity the Marines weren't issued more brass shotgun shells-it would have been a great ambush/counter ambush weapon in the jungles. I did notice a combat shotgun in use during the street fighting in Khafji during Gulf War 1.
Thanks,
JeffinMNUSA

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Jeff, off topic, but just of interest, were you in Khafji or was that just a comment...

I have a great interest in that particular action. Brave guys.

Urgh;
No Khafji-I noticed the combat shotgun in the news reels. It was with the team that was on the building. And yes that was one heck of a military feat.
JeffinMNUSA

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I would wield a
-Panzerfaust
-Panzerschrek
-MP 44
-MP 40
-Gewher 98
-Gewher 43
-Kar 98k
-MG 34
-Bren LGM
-Lee Enfield

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In a man-to-man fight, the winner is he who has one more round in his magazine. - ERWIN ROMMEL

What strong arms you have to carry all that weaponry! Shame on Johnny Rambo!

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