WWII Forums Quiz Part I - Page 8

PzJgr · #**176** (**permalink**) July 9th, 2002, 06:28 PM

Thanks Timo. I used the article written by you and Mr. Murhpy. [img]smile.gif[/img]

Here is my question. It is an easy one but interesting one. There were 5 documented Americans having served in the Waffen SS. There was one who defected by stealing an american plane and presenting it to the Germans. Please provide the following.

Name and rank of the individual:
Unit he was assigned to:
Commander of that Unit:

Good luck

Martin Bull · #**177** (**permalink**) July 10th, 2002, 10:31 AM

I don't usually try these Waffen-SS ones as I'm not an expert but was it ; -

2nd Lieutenant Martin James Monti, who absconded in a F/4 ( maybe F/5 ) photo-recon version of the P38 in October 1944, flying from Naples to Milan where he defected.
Allocated to the SS-Standarte Kurt Eggers he was given the rank of SS-Untersturmfuhrer. The Commander was Gunther D'Alquen. I think !

[ 10 July 2002, 05:33 AM: Message edited by: Martin Bull ]

Otto · #**178** (**permalink**) July 10th, 2002, 10:55 AM

This is by far the longest thread I have ever seen here so far! I have been following along the whole time, I though I was onto something when I started this quiz thread up.

Martin Bull · #**179** (**permalink**) July 10th, 2002, 11:01 AM

(Yes, you can get addicted! Maybe this thread needs a special part of the site on it's own ? )

Bish OBE · #**180** (**permalink**) July 10th, 2002, 12:46 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Martin Bull:
(Yes, you can get addicted! Maybe this thread needs a special part of the site on it's own ? )

Thats not a bad idea. Won't this thread soon be reaching its limits. Maybe a section for quizzes were we could have several sections. Otto, wot you think.

Stevin · #**181** (**permalink**) July 10th, 2002, 01:28 PM

Guys, This would normally get a BIG thumbs up from me, but I start to have problems keeping up with all the posts on this site as it is!!!

Although I REALLY like the quiz.

PzJgr · #**182** (**permalink**) July 10th, 2002, 01:37 PM

Martin Bull is the man. Second Lieutenant Martin James Monti (born 1910 in St Louis of an Italian-Swiss father and German mother) went awol Oct 1944, travelled from Karachi to Naples (through Cairo and Tripoli) where to stole a F-4 or F-5 photographic reconnaissance aircraft (photo recon version of the P-38) and flew to Milan. There he surrendered, or rather defected, to the Germans and worked as a propaganda broadcaster (as Martin Wiethaupt) before entering the Waffen-SS as a SS-Untersturmführer in SS-Standarte Kurt Eggers. At the end of the war he went south to Italy where surrendered to US forces (still wearing his SS uniform) claiming that he had been given the uniform by partisans. He was charged with desertion and sentenced to 15 years hard labour. This sentence was soon commuted and Monti rejoined the US Air Corps, but in 1948 he was discharged and picked up by the FBI. He was now charged with treason and sentenced to 25 years the following year. He was paroled in 1960.

Martin Bull · #**183** (**permalink**) July 10th, 2002, 01:42 PM

Let's have a good old British ( two part ) question.

Fusilier Francis Arthur Jefferson of 2nd Bn. Lancashire Fusiliers was awarded the VC for his actions at Monte Cassino on 16/5/44.

a) What was the award for ?
( That's the easy bit )

b) According to 'Barrack-room talk' what SHOULD he have got the VC for ?
( That's the tricky bit ! )

PzJgr · #**184** (**permalink**) July 10th, 2002, 02:21 PM

You're killing me. Got the first part. He took a PIAT and knocked out one tank and forced another to withdraw during fighting at Monte Cassino. For the life of me I cannot find the answer to the second part. It is time to take the trusty spade and do some digging.

Martin Bull · #**185** (**permalink**) July 10th, 2002, 02:34 PM

Half-way there, PzJgr !
Clue : it's something to do with the weapon . . .

Popski · #**186** (**permalink**) July 10th, 2002, 08:23 PM

Did he shoot his foot

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Martin Bull · #**187** (**permalink**) July 10th, 2002, 08:31 PM

No!

Popski · #**188** (**permalink**) July 10th, 2002, 08:36 PM

Some other privat parts [img]smile.gif[/img]

Martin Bull · #**189** (**permalink**) July 10th, 2002, 08:43 PM

IMHO if one shot one's private parts with a PIAT there wouldn't be much left to pin a medal on . . . .

PS I can sense you're all struggling with this one !

[ 10 July 2002, 03:44 PM: Message edited by: Martin Bull ]

Popski · #**190** (**permalink**) July 10th, 2002, 08:51 PM

G'day Bull

Watching the BBC 2 now, maybe Ho;mes has the answer??

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PzJgr · #**191** (**permalink**) July 10th, 2002, 09:02 PM

did it have to do with him not knowing how to use the PIAT?

Martin Bull · #**192** (**permalink**) July 10th, 2002, 09:30 PM

It's the way he used it . . . .

Stevin · #**193** (**permalink**) July 10th, 2002, 10:02 PM

Am I allowed to give it a try or is this on on hold for Pzjgr???

Martin Bull · #**194** (**permalink**) July 10th, 2002, 11:18 PM

Well, Stevin, the first part was so easy and the second part is so difficult - so be my guest . . . .

Stevin · #**195** (**permalink**) July 10th, 2002, 11:23 PM

I would venture to say that instead of lying down and have the PIAT 'anchored' on the ground, he just shot it off the hip...But maybe this is too simple??

[ 10 July 2002, 06:24 PM: Message edited by: Stevin Oudshoorn ]

Bish OBE · #**196** (**permalink**) July 10th, 2002, 11:29 PM

I did not want to jump infront of Sevin, as he asked. But now he has answered, i'll have a guess to. Sounds ridiculas, but did he throw the projectile by hand. The Barrack room joke would have been along the lines of he should have got it for playing darts.

Martin Bull · #**197** (**permalink**) July 10th, 2002, 11:31 PM

Not quite, Bish.... You're getting there though.
Come on, chaps - one final push !!

Bish OBE · #**198** (**permalink**) July 10th, 2002, 11:33 PM

He didn't shove it down the barrel did he.