WWII Forums Quiz Part III

[Martin Bull]

OK - a two-part 'ARNHEM' question.

Who lost both forearms and an eye at Arnhem ?

And what was the book which he wrote in 1952 about his experiences called ?

[C.Evans]

I WAS going to mention Model as well--but it was already mentioned.

[Kai-Petri]

Doing the "special missions" again...

Corporal Andrew Milbourne

The book is "Lease of life".

http://www.bafa.org.au/Arnhem/amilbourne.htm

PS Sorry it´s me again but I did let the others have time to answer...

[Martin Bull]

Very well done indeed, Kai ! I was just beginning to think that no-one was going to try....

[Kai-Petri]

Panzer Lehr division was counted as having 90 Panthers to start the battles in Normandy. However, the tanks were far away from Normandy at the time...Why were they away and why were they returned on 10th June?

Tip: Short sightedness by Hitler
Tip2: They were not coming fresh from the factory

[Bish OBE]

Where this tanks being used at the training schools for instruction

[Kai-Petri]

Sorry, Bish, no.But nice try!

[urqh]

Originally posted by Kai-Petri:
Panzer Lehr division was counted as having 90 Panthers to start the battles in Normandy. However, the tanks were far away from Normandy at the time...Why were they away and why were they returned on 10th June?

Tip: Short sightedness by Hitler
Tip2: They were not coming fresh from the factory

Somewhere outside Paris, to thwart a feared airborne op on Paris...Attacked 10th against 7th Armoured to stop their attack West of Caen in its tracks.

Hey its from memory so im probably well out...Dont know where around Paris and not sure where around Caen they attacked the Brits.

[Sniper]

Not quite sure why they were going there, was the Divison being transferred to the Eastern Front?but the Panthers were on railway wagons on their way to Poland, and it took that long for them to be recalled and find a way back to Normandy due to all the bridges having been bombed.

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"Whenever in future wars the battle is fought, panzer troops will play the decisive role..."
Heinz Guderian, General der Panzertruppe, from his book "Achtung Panzer"

[Kai-Petri]

Yes, Sniper, that´s it!

The Panzer Lehr Panthers, all 90 of them were on their way to the eastern Front, but as the invasion started they were sent back by the Fuhrer.They returned on 10th...

Over to you, Sniper!

[urqh]

Any one got a clue where I might have picked the bit up about Paris and the airborne then, remember seeing an article about the Germans worrying about it but cant find it now..

[Kai-Petri]

Urgh,

the Paris thing might be just the Panthers being stopped because the railways were rather well bombed in the area.

Don´t remember any airborne ops for Paris but lotsa cheat operations where dummies were dropped all over the place, and caused a huge mix-up as everyone was calling the HQ for paratroops in their area. And later on calling it was a hoax.

[Sniper]

Thanks Kai.

Okay guys, the Allies developed a transfer system to get fuel from the UK to France after D-Day.

Give me it's codename, what the letters actually stand for (clue: there's a popular version and the official one, give me both if you can), and the names of the three entry points into France for the system.

Cheers.

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"Chamberlain seemed such a nice old gentleman that I thought I would give him my autograph."
Adolf Hitler.

[Popski]

'G'day Sniper

Is it PLUTO meaning Pipe Line Under The Ocean?

Popski

[Martin Bull]

It was PLUTO as Popski says ( developed by 'COXY' ).

Were the entry points Cherbourg, Port-en-Bessin and Ambleteuse ?

[Sniper]

You guys are too good.

It was PLUTO, and Martin you got Cherbourg, and Port-en-Bessin right, but the other one was actually Ste Honorine-de-Pertes, about 2-3 miles west of Port-en-Bessin.

So I'll say you and Popski are tied at the moment. I'll give it to which of you can give me the other (more official) meaning of PLUTO.

Pipeline Under the Ocean is the popular version but what is the other one??

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"Without question, the greatest invention in the history of mankind is beer. Oh, I grant you that the wheel was also a fine invention, but the wheel does not go nearly as well with pizza."
Dave Barry

[Popski]

G'day Martin

What I found out it ran from Shaklin Cine ( Isle of Wight ) to Cherbourg, Quercuevill 4 lines totalling 280 miles called BAMBI and later on from Dungeness( Kent ) to Ambleteuse near Boulogne 17 lines totalling 500 miles called DUMBO on the shorter route. Saw also the places you mentioned named but I dion.t know if that is a more detailled pace on the map.

Popski

[Popski]

Sorry

Didn't read the second part of the question correct. Know there is an other explanation for PLUTO but can't find it now.

So Martin it's yours

Popski

[Sniper]

Hi Popski, I'm going to give this one to you since you've dug up a bit more info and you were the first to answer.

Actually what I was after was the other meaning of PLUTO.

The popular version is Pipeline Under The Ocean (PLUTO), but the official version originated as Pipeline Underwater Transport of Oil (PLUTO)that's militaryspeak. The popular version arose because originally the press couldn't figure out what PLUTO stood for, so they made it up.

Over to you.

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"I have not failed. I've just found 10,000 ways that won't work."
- Thomas Alva Edison (1847-1931)

[Kai-Petri]

I read that actually PLUTO was not as good as expected...well, as I had expected.

PLUTO1:

"The delays in the Bristol Channel were revisited upon the men and by the time pumping began 41 days later with 2 HAIS flexible pipelines and 2 HAMEL steel pipelines, the armies were well on their way into Belgium. Because of ongoing problems, and the then disposition of the Allied armies farther to the east, a new pipeline was laid between Dungeness and Ambleteuse near Boulogne. This consisted of 11 HAIS pipelines and 6 HAMEL steel pipelines in a swept channel two miles wide. In January 1945 it delivered a disappointing 300 tons but by March this had increased to 3000 tons and later still to 4000 tons. PLUTO's petrol continued to supply the Allies well after they had crossed the Rhine into Germany. "

http://www.combinedops.com/pluto.htm

[Popski]

Thank's Sniper

If you give me the oppertunity I'll do my best.
Name the 3 men that escaped from Stalag Luft III on 24th March 1944.

Popski
PS just remember howmany didn't come back

[Martin Bull]

The three who 'made it' were : -

Per Bergsland ( aka 'Rocky Rockland' )332 Sqn
Jens Muller 331 Sqn
Bram ('Bob') van der Stock ( unsure of his unit... ? )

Indeed yes, the consequences for the others were appalling.

[Stevin]

Bob van der Stok, Martin!

He was a Dutch Spitfire pilot from 322 Dutch Sqn RAF. He wrote a book about his experiences. I have got the Dutch version. I believe Carl read the English one.