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March 10th, 2008, 09:25 PM
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Re: Knights Cross Winners
C, my question is whether or not it is hand signed or the stamp-ed that Ivan spoke of ?
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March 10th, 2008, 09:31 PM
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Hi E, Sorry, I must have mis-read your post. Usually if they are stamped, you can tell if you hold it at such an angle that makes the signature look level to you and sometiems you can see either a sharp impression of the ink-which means it's handsigned, or a slightly fuzzy impression-which means it was stamped.
I learned how to tell about signatures way back when I used to sell and trade autographs-which was about 20 years ago.
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March 10th, 2008, 09:43 PM
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I see your point of they were using a baqll point pen but I have many after war sigs with use of a Flair type marker which is crap and not fully detailed, fully "flat" as you mentioned, no indentations at all. Sadly many KM pics are signed right over the dark blue tunic/coat with black or blue pen so you do not see the full sig as it literally melts right into the dark background.......sniff, wimper
I have a rare signed pic of KM H. Bögel in black ball point, clearly hand signed, very nice sweeping signature he had but right across his neck and part of his face........yikes.
Siegfried Wupperman. Horst Weber, Felix Z. and a couple of other RK S-booten winner pics I have are all signed with black pen and are very hard to read except for Kemmnades which is in Blue as well as S-boot ace Kurt Fimmens. At least the Töniges pic had a white area at the bottom for his black marker sig which is very clean and crisp. Kleinkampfverbandführer Helmut Bastian's pic signed with Black marker pen to the lower right but very crammed together which was his style but hardly discerned. G. Priens is very clear and clean in black ink.
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March 11th, 2008, 11:27 AM
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Re: Knights Cross Winners
Carl,
I'll get you Klaus Feldt address and e mail you,
regards
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March 11th, 2008, 06:05 PM
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I'll get you Klaus Feldt address and e mail you,
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Hi Paul, thank you and, I wan't to make you and Erich a copy of my Feldt/Raeder HH PK foto in case you guys want to see if he will sign that one. I'll try to have copies made this coming Monday and will ty to get them out to you later the same week.
This foto is about double postcard size. Also, if I think about it, I would like to make a copy for you both, the last photo taken of Wolfgang Luth on the conning tower of U 181. This picture is much like my pic of Johann Mohr when he was on the conning tower of his Uboat. Both pics also display kill flags.
And thank you again Paul-Herr Feldt is one I greatly look forward to writing to.
Take care and best regards-Carl.
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March 11th, 2008, 06:10 PM
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I see your point of they were using a baqll point pen but I have many after war sigs with use of a Flair type marker which is crap and not fully detailed, fully "flat" as you mentioned, no indentations at all. Sadly many KM pics are signed right over the dark blue tunic/coat with black or blue pen so you do not see the full sig as it literally melts right into the dark background.......sniff, wimper
I have a rare signed pic of KM H. Bögel in black ball point, clearly hand signed, very nice sweeping signature he had but right across his neck and part of his face........yikes.
Siegfried Wupperman. Horst Weber, Felix Z. and a couple of other RK S-booten winner pics I have are all signed with black pen and are very hard to read except for Kemmnades which is in Blue as well as S-boot ace Kurt Fimmens. At least the Töniges pic had a white area at the bottom for his black marker sig which is very clean and crisp. Kleinkampfverbandführer Helmut Bastian's pic signed with Black marker pen to the lower right but very crammed together which was his style but hardly discerned. G. Priens is very clear and clean in black ink.
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Hi E, about half of the signed pics I got of KM guys was like the ones you mentioned about being signed over their dark uniforms. I was also going to say that you could easily use a certain method in tellinig if the sig was stamped or written on with a felt marker but, it involves in slightly destrroying a small part of the signature-so I will not tell of that method. Also, I don't think it would have helped enough to make it worth destroying a small pat of the autograph. Sometimes you can tell the diff/ by using a drop of water and a Q-tip.
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March 11th, 2008, 06:24 PM
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Do really want to know? I have a few copies and they are just as excellent. of course the original signature is another thing, but I'd rather have a copy than nothing. In my collection I have mainly airmen :
Oskar Boesh, Grislawski, Huy, Kaiser Herbert, Weik, Glunz etc...
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March 12th, 2008, 08:54 AM
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Carl / Erich have got Feldt's address for you and have been told he will reply , will pm you both,
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March 15th, 2008, 09:58 PM
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Hi Paul, got it and many thanks mate ;-)) Also, i'll make you a copy of the Feldt photo-which was my most expensive, and will mail you a copy of it soon. This picture in particular, is one of my top three most favorite that I have ;-)) Another is a Luftwaffe pic that if I can think about it, will make a copy of it for you. This one shows a bomber crew celebrating I think, 1,200 sorties? I don't think any KC guys were in this pic, but not sure on that either.
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March 15th, 2008, 10:05 PM
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hey put me on that Feldt photo copy list C if you would, I made another copy for Feldt to sign and yes Paul thank you very much this could be interesting as I have a ton of questions for the man but will limit it to just 3-4.
Skipper Oskar B. is one of the neatest LW pilots I have ever interviewed and written.... a super man, aging well, strong and still flys Gliders on the circuit in Canada
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March 15th, 2008, 10:37 PM
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No problem but, PLEASE REMIND ME if I don't get them out in next weeks mail. Or I (unfortunately) will forget.
Best regards-C.
PS, im not yelling above-just that I really mean it in reminding me-even if you have to nag nag nag a bit. I gotta go to Kinko's to do some other stuff too and will hopefully go there on Thurs or Fri next week.
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hey put me on that Feldt photo copy list C if you would, I made another copy for Feldt to sign and yes Paul thank you very much this could be interesting as I have a ton of questions for the man but will limit it to just 3-4.
Skipper Oskar B. is one of the neatest LW pilots I have ever interviewed and written.... a super man, aging well, strong and still flys Gliders on the circuit in Canada
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March 15th, 2008, 10:41 PM
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will do in a private next week
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March 18th, 2008, 04:11 PM
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Carl / Erich have got Feldt's address for you and have been told he will reply , will pm you both,
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Hello Paul, can you send me his adress too?
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March 25th, 2008, 04:28 PM
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Major
Henle, Hermann
* 10.07.1916 Traustein
+ 16.03.2008 Herrsching
Ritterkreuz am: 19.09.1943
als: Hauptmann
Funktion: Führer II./WerferRgt 70
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March 25th, 2008, 09:15 PM
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Reat in Peace Herr Major. 
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March 31st, 2008, 02:52 PM
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Hauptmann
Gutmacher, Gerhard
* 31.10.1917 Berlin-Schöneberg
+ 31.03.2008 Heidelberg
Ritterkreuz am: 14.01.1945
als: Hauptmann
Funktion: Führer I./GrenRgt 178
Dr Gutmacher was the OdR Vorsitzender and a Stalingrad veteran.
Oberleutnant zur See der Reserve
Hess, Hans-Georg
* 06.05.1923 Berlin
+ 29.03.2008 Wunstorf (Todesort noch nicht amtlich)
Ritterkreuz am: 11.02.1945
als: Oberleutnant zur See der Reserve
Funktion: Kommandant U-995
RIP,
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March 31st, 2008, 03:51 PM
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Rest in Peace, brave men. 
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April 15th, 2008, 08:57 AM
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Messer, Wilhelm
* 19.04.1917 Pfungstadt
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Ritterkreuz am: 12.03.1945
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Funktion: Flugzeugführer 11./TG 2
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April 24th, 2008, 10:57 AM
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Handler, Johann
* 04.05.1916 Bad Gleichenberg/Bez. Feldbach/Steiermark/Österr.
+ 09.02.2008 Gloggnitz/Niederösterreich
Ritterkreuz am: 14.04.1945
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Thanks for the up-date Mate, and may he Rest in Peace.
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