For those of who are football fans

What is your club for this year champion's league


Thank you

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American football, or the-rest-of-the-world football?

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"Et tu Brute? Then fall Caesar."

The Champions League = "Soccer"

I have to stick by my Gunners - born and bred a Gunner, though i cant deny that they havent played well in the Premiership this year...

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Sorry. I'm American so I go with our football.

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Uhhhh, Pittsburgh Steelers, World Champions????

There are no athletes in the world that compare to the men of the NFL.

Later

No.9

And that would mean that the Patriots are 3 times the athletes the Steelers are! [img]tongue.gif[/img]

As to the question at hand- Although Chelsea is ahead by 12 points, I'll give Man U a better shot. And Arsenal as a dark horse to make a run.

(holy crap, Crazy knows something about both kinds of football!)
((Should be noted- Crazy dosen't know enough to really make those predictions... heh, but I do follow Premiership a bit!))

And "my" football team is running away with their league- Celtic up 17 points on the next closest, Heart of Midlothian.

Oh yeah... and Johnny Damon sucks.

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Seriously, all today is missing is free cotton candy and the annual Bay State Hooker Parade to make it any better.

Barcelona played great football and sent Chelsea out of the competition. Ronaldinho will put any defence in deep trouble. I´ll say Barcelona.

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I'll stick either with Barcelona...but I have to consier OL...

they beat Eindhoven so easily and Juninho is also great this year.

Thank you

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I think it is going to be Barcelona too. They face Benfica next (Two Dutch coaches!!!) but how Benfica got to the Q-finals, I don't know...Sorry Za!

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I am afraid that i dont agree with NFL players being the greatest athletes in the world. Half of the team plays half of the game...soccer athletes usually play all 90 minutes and just as frequently as NFL games (and sometimes twice a week, if they have champions league games). Professional Cyclists (think Tour de France) are the greatest athletes IMO....risking life and limb, racing for a month straight (and thats just the TDF and doesnt include the lesser known races they partake in) and to be able to do what they do is amasing - i'd love to see an NFL player make it up the Alpe d'Huez even on foot!

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Yeah, but I'd like to see Armstrong, Ulrich, or Rasmusen survive an NFL game.

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I think you'd be suprised - i'm sure they could be a WR and be fine - and all that leg power too would make them hard to bring down. And Ulrich looks like he belongs on an NFL team more then a bike, lol.

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Oh sure, but being a lineman? Well, those lineman couldn't be riders either

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"Et tu Brute? Then fall Caesar."

You have to admit the Soccer fans are more passionate about the game and more physical, than American football fans.

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I have to disagree with you on that one.

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"Et tu Brute? Then fall Caesar."

Footballers and cyclists wouldn't last one hit in the NFL.

Later

Amen

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A while ago I read that the knee cartilages are removed from NFL players before getting professional contract because these would one day be injured anyway. Is this true? If it is I´m truly sorry for these guys because this will definitely ruin the knees by the age of 50, maybe by 40...

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I don't think that's true Kai. While a large percentage of NFL players eventually have all sorts of knee problems, I don't think it would be medically sound, or good for the player or the team for that matter, to do that. I'm pretty sure that a knee intact is preferrable than one without cartilage.

Later

I think you guys are getting a bit out of the track.

Even if football players, soccer players, cyclists are all pretty good athletes you just can't compare them by putting each other in another sports. They are just great at what they do and they do have their own caracteritics. Cause you can also say the any of theses atheletes could'nt play hockey, so hockey players are the best.

But I think that if you go with the overall healt condition (except steriods) and training time, cyclists are among the best in the worls with the cross-country skiing athletes.

Thank you

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Napoleon Bonaparte

Muss is correct as an avid cyclist, yes the cycling clowns have more endurance than any other athelete as well as nordic cc. Since I do both guess I'm the best ....... Try climbing over 10,000 feet of paved roads some of them near wash outs a day gents .........you'll then have a healthy respect for serious cycling

Indeed,

you cannot compare these sports.

And must say I have some great respect for cyclists because they can do up to 50-55 kms/hour or more for long periods (=hours ). Just try that yourself...EEK!

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La Tour is a fine example of what they have to do for most of the summer. Keep in mind most of the other Cyclists are