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Discussion in 'Air War in Western Europe 1939 - 1945' started by Kai-Petri, Dec 9, 2012.

  1. Kai-Petri

    Kai-Petri Kenraali

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    In February 1944 the Luftwaffe lost one-third of its fighters and a fifth of its crews. In March, it lost more than half of its fighter aircraft. In April, 43% were shot down and in May and June loss rate hovered around 50%. Over the first five months of 1944 the Luftwaffe┬┤s entire complement of fighter pilots was either killed or disabled. "

    Wages of destruction by Tooze
     
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    The beginning of the end.....
     
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    ..I wonder how many of those lost in 1944 were experienced .....was it like the Japanese in the Pacific?
     
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    wonder if those loss rates are Luftwaffes own or claimed kills by the RAF and USAF? Still they managed the Bodenplatte in jan 45 - well even if it was a sort of last stand..
    and did the germans try harder in the east in the end? well just some late night thoughts..
     
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    I do recall that most must have been rookies as the pilot training time was radically shortened due to fuel shortage mostly . Many experienced pilots were Lost as well as also nachtjagd pilots with bf 110 and Ju88 etc were sent as well to fight bombers and the support fighters during daylight.
     
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    There were a bunch of fighter pilots who made it through the entire war...

    "Over the first five months of 1944 the Luftwaffe┬┤s entire complement of fighter pilots was either killed or disabled" - Huh?
     
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    belasar Court Jester Staff Member

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    I think we have a case of imprecise terminology here, losses could have been equal to the establishment in January 1944, but does not account for pilots added from other commands (bombers, Recce, Transport) non -flying postings, returned from medical leave and those graduated from flight training.
     
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    After WW2 studies showed that 80% of kills were made when one plane made a single pass at another and shot down the enemy plane before their opponent knew what was happening.
    To win the Winter sky by Danny Parker.
     
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    I read somewhere years ago that air combat was a series of ambushes.
     
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    JG54 took part in BoB after arriving in August to Pas de Calais. Between 12 August and 1 December 1940 no fewer than 43 pilots had been reported killed,missing or captured. A casualty rate of close on 40% or the equivalent of more than an entire Gruppe.

    JG54 "Grunherz" By John Weal
     

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