Alternative time lines

alternative timelines , lets go , start posting hypothetical situations.

 

My god, I hope Tony W doesn't see this!!!!

:smok:

 

There have been some interesting altrenative time line books written/edited by Peter Tsouras.

 

OK,Germany never attacks Russia.Russia stays neutral.What effect would this have on the rest of the war?

 

how about
Germany invadeing russia/poland when she was fully ready in 43-45 with modern weapons, what effect

 

The Germans caught Stalin with his pants down in 1940.I don't know if that would have been possible 3-5 years later.

 

What about 'Fatherland' by Robert Harris.

 

i've got that

 

In the book Hitler's Disciples, there was discussion of the political wrangling between Germany and Poland. Apparently, for a while, it looked as if Göring might have kept the two nations friendly.

So, how about Germany and Poland allied, against Russia?

 

GB declares war on Germany and Russia for the rape of Poland in 1939.

The USA nukes Russia for lowering the iron curtain.

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What if the americans hadn't joined WW1 ? seriously lets have a serious debate on this.

 

Well...

Germany launched their final offensive in a bid to finish the war before the US joined in. That went very well for them, but it exhausted them, and the allied counter-attack (using new tactics, especially the effective use of armour) pushed them right back. The Hindenburg line proved easy to penetrate...

But, no US entry, no German Offensive.

So...
Germany has her Western Front reinforced by the troops from out East, and does nothing. Britain & France stockpile the bigger & better tanks & aeroplanes for their planned 1919 offensive...
I reckon the blockade of Germany would mean that the 1919 offensive would work fairly well regardless, really.

 

Agreed, american aid in 1918 was important, but not decisive.

In the spring of 1918, Germany launched 4 major offensives(2 against the british and 2 against the french army).
According to the german supreme command, these offensives were "Germany's last chance to end the war victoriously".
As these offensives(Operation Michael, Georgette, Blücher and Gneisenau)fail, Germany has virtually lost the war in july 1918.

Germany was starving, it's allies were falling apart(Turkey and Austria-Hungary)....and France/Britain were outproducing Germany in every domain: artillery, planes, tanks....
For their spring offensive of 1919, the allies planned to use up to 4500 tanks....against some 100 german ones.

Undoutely, the US entry helped shorten the war for at least 6 month, but Germany's fate was decided when it's spring offensives of 1918 failed.

 

Consider the morale of the Germans, one more indusrial power against them.

Never mind the fighting etc...just the notion of it.

Plus different weapons, tactics and fresh troops to contend with.

 

The appearance of masses of fresh USA troops certainly had a bad effect on the morale of german troops....

 

Got this idea from a book called "The Leader." What if Britain was facist, and joined with Germany/Italy/Japan to fight America and Russia?

(obviously I mean no disrespect to the men who gave their lives, just wondering what would happen in this situation)

Tomba

 

The war lasts somewhat longer, but I think US/USSR/China still win.

In the end, Britain looses it's empire and is bankrupt....so not much difference to real time line 1945.

 

what if east & west germany had gone to war between 1948-1990 ?

 

You mean with their respective blocks behind them....?

It also depends which year/decade this would take place.

 

I cannot see East Germany going to war without the permission (or instruction!) of the CCCP.

I also cannot see any war between the two (unless it ends within a very short time and both sides return to the pre-conflict borders) not escalating into NATO vs Warsaw Pact.

And that is an interesting scenario.
Scary, but interesting.