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best kept secrets of ww2..

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  1. sniper1946

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    1.Navajo Code Talkers - America's Biggest WWII Crypto-Secret..

    what other best kept secrets of ww2 helped in assisting the allies during the war..name others that were important/useful..
     
  2. urqh

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    before the rush.. enigma but im interested especially from brits what we come up with.. its my mastermind subject .. .. sigint if theres ever a bring an old foggie on the show version.
     
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    In contrast to German and Japanese codes, American codes proved unbreakable due to a superior code machine known as SIGABA, the most secure cryptographic machine used by any nation in WWII.

    The U.S. Army and Navy developed SIGABA before the war. "SIGABA" is not an acronym and does not stand for anything -- it is simply a code word. In 1935 Army cryptologists designed the basic machine, and they shared its design with the Navy. In 1940 the Army and Navy both adopted SIGABA, and the system became operational by August 1941. By 1943, more than 10,000 SIGABA machines were in use.

    SIGABA machines linked with British machines to let Presidents Roosevelt and Truman communicate securely with British Prime Minister Winston Churchill. SIGABA was so secret, though, that British personnel were not allowed access to the machine.
     
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    here's your starter urqh,(msc) stands for motorised submersible canoe,it was nicknamed the what..? no using the web,naughty...;)
     
  5. urqh

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    i dont know sniper.. were talking murky world here. access to these machines is not always what you may think. my own clearance was instituted specifically to work on us machine linked to cobra when it was the annexe not the accronym of today..a machine and info not supposedly available to any none us eyes only. so im wary of even published facts and histories in this area which is why current fdr thread is a must too.
     
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    the gobie desert or devils coast version?
     
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    Motorised Submersible Canoe (MSC) nicknamed the 'Sleeping Beauty'. It was battery powered by an electric motor, had a top speed of 4.4 knots, and could travel for some 30 miles at a cruising speed of 3 knots. It was designed to carry up to three and a half pounds of explosives and, if necessary, to be dropped near its target by a heavy bomber. However these canoes were designed especially for operations from submarines. Up to 15 canoes could be carried in the boat's torpedo storage compartment. The pilot controlled the craft by a joystick, breathed through scuba gear, and would have to come close to the surface to establish his whereabouts. The canoe was brought along in the disastrous Operation Rimau in World War 2. These were only used operationally once, when two released from a British submarine sank two Japanese ships in Thailand's Phuket harbour.
     
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    i read a vets story about his involment in this. no missions i dont think.. just his training on one of the peoples war projects. an aussie toy in the end. guy from nsighbours starred in a tv dramamentory on em bout two years ago..kylies screen hubby
     
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    but if we are talking kit rather than ether..what about the rat bomb..
     
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    was only a starter,not in the theme of the post urqh.

    rat bomb? pass! any pics?:)
     
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    no pics but it was an soe thing i think. dont know if ever used. fill up rat carcass...why a real one i dont know...explosives next to factory kit..well that was the idea. dirty tricks hq was aston house near you sniper.
     
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    AH!!! the guns of navarone,,they used them in the final scenes to cause explosions,corporal miller,explosives (david niven)ray..:)
     
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    I would say the Soviets kept the most secrets, although they did a poorer job on guarding some than others. There were thousands of documents released in the 90's that we never even knew existed...scary.
     
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    well there you go movie meets fact.. and niven was a national secret himself apparantly.
     
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    a sad ending alas,ray..
     
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    were talking niven now right... not the rat...
     
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    ha! ha! now were cooking urqh,the rat...:D:D:D
     
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    The sinking of the Lancastria is a pretty kept secret and won't fully be known about till 2040, apparently Britains worst maritime disaster in terms of loss of life. At the time Churchill covered it up for morale, although I think a few newspapers leaked info about it.
     
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    thanks piat,not sure if I'll still be around then;),I'll have a dig,ray..;)
     
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    There is a great site with acompanying music for the lancastria. One of best on net.
     

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