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Breakout of the Gothic line

Discussion in 'What If - Mediterranean & North Africa' started by Tomcat, Feb 21, 2008.

  1. Tomcat

    Tomcat The One From Down Under

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    OK what if the allies in Italy had broken straight through the gothic line, not giving the Germans time to retreat and dig in again and again but went straight through, do you think that the allies there could have reached Berlin before the soviets or would the Austrian alps have held them back from entering Germany
     
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    Hufflepuff Semi-Frightening Mountain Goat

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    I personally think that if the Gothic line was overrun as you said then the German army would have been effectively beaten in Italy, but there would have been little impact on reaching Berlin. It may have had an impact on the Yalta conference, where the Allies discussed the sharing of the breakup of Nazi Germany. The Americans would have liberated more territory for sure, so the Soviet Zone of occupation (later known as the iron curtain) would have been smaller. Militaristically though, I think the alps would have hindered the Allies' advance on Berlin from the south too greatly for them to take Berlin.
     
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    Tomcat The One From Down Under

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    Yeah I was think all the same lines about the alps
     
  4. tikilal

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    The supply and movement in Italy would not have supported such and advance and the reason that they did halt at the Gothic line was supply based. There is no soft underbelly in the Med. Look at how much the units in Italy moved in the last months of the war against almost no resistance, the terrain was the inhibitor.
     
  5. Carl W Schwamberger

    Carl W Schwamberger Ace

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    I'm unsure the railroads running north from Italy & the Adriatic would have supported supply to a Allied army group advancing into Austria. At least not on advancing with lighting speed.

    In any case the Germans still had a reserve in northern Italy, the Blakans, and souther France from which they could have drawn from to make a emergency defense in the mountains defending the Po River valley. That could have bought enough time to build a real defense in the Alps and further east.
     
  6. Lost Watchdog

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    Smashing through the Gothic Line was no guarantee of quick success. The Allies would have to cross the Po Valley and hit the Alps, which could not be crossed. They could try to drive into what is modern Slovenia and through the Ljubljana Gap into Austria. But ... the Italians tried this in WWI and despite facing the poorly led/equipped/motivated Austro-Hungarian army they failed utterly to break their lines on the Isonzo river until the internal collapse of the Austro-Hungarians in 1918.
     
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