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Trump Adds to NASA Budget, Approves Crewed Mission to Mars
President Donald Trump signed a law on Tuesday authorizing funding for a crewed NASA mission to Mars.
The new bill adds a crewed mission to the red planet as a key NASA objective and authorizes the space agency to direct test human space flight programs that will enable more crewed exploration in deep space.
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Getting to Mars, though, isn't expected to happen during the Trump presidency. NASA has its sights set on getting to the red planet in the 2030s.

NASA laid out its plan for Mars in a 36-page report, detailing milestones the space agency must hit over the next few years to help ensure a successful future trek into deep space.

In the near term, NASA plans to test its Orion spacecraft and Space Launch System rocket, in addition to visiting an asteroid and redirecting a chunk of it into orbit around the moon. Astronauts could later visit the boulder and use the mission to test some of the tools needed for a Mars mission.

 

Must be a slow news day, when Donald Trump writing his name makes "news."

 

Medical diagnostic errors...Hmmm, so what you are saying is that the number of smog related deaths could be much higher.

Don't fret about it. The smog is killing off the Chinese poors, by unburdening those poors of their lives.

China does not have natural gas?
Yet, China is the 6th largest producer of natural gas.

This fart is for you wm.

 

Was JFK's call to put a man on the moon by the end of decade a 'news' event, or was that a slow day as well?. I get it you don't like the guy, I'm not terribly fond of him either, but a human landing on another planet, one that likely has at least rudimentary life is kinda a big deal don't you think? Like the moon landing it would need a president making a clear call to do it and as hard to swallow for you it is just possible that Trump's signature on order authorizing a landing on Mars might be as transcendental for humanity as JFK's film footage of a call for a moon landing.

 

Belasar, respectfully, you are comparing apples to oranges...

JFK, was the first President to call for a moon landing...Eisenhower thought the cost of such an undertaking could not be justified.

Trump, however, is not the first President to call for a Mars landing - That would be George W. Bush, nor is he the second President to call for a Mars landing - that would be Barack Obama, but the third President to call for a Mars landing.

As Trump is the third President to call for a Mars landing, I find it impossible to try and turn this into some sort of noteworthy accomplishment for his administration. Still, given the abject failures of his administration, I guess even the smallest successes are noteworthy.

 

The one difference I would point out is that unlike previous calls it lays out a specific date, 2033 rather than the generic sometime in the future proposed by President Obama (mid 2030's or later). Of course there is plenty of time till then and the whole project might get side tracked, but if it does happen by 2033 it is quite possible that history may record that signature ceremony as a key moment in the time line of Human exploration of Space.

Look there is plenty to bash Trump on, but crapping on everything just because does not help the cause.

 

Bush set a specific date...2030. Obama took a more cautious approach, as deadlines lead to disaster just as well as success(Soyuz 1, Challenger, etc.).

Given that most don't remember the Vice President, and no one remembers the Bronze Medal winners in the Olympics, no one will remember Trump for this even if it succeeds.

When Trump stops making mountains out of mole hills, I will gladly stop bashing his not-news...

 

Obama just wasted eight years building that pork-laden rocket to nowhere, in the same time Spacex created Falcon and Dragon out of nothing.

 

Of course. Especially that fake science can prove anything.

Smog doesn't kill healthy persons, only those already severely ill.
And most of the Chinese smoke or chain-smoke anyway, they like smog.

And here is a secret.
You won't hear it from the alarmists, tree-huggers, or their chrysanthemum dogs, a large part of that smog is so called yellow dust from the deserts of Mongolia, northern China, Kazakhstan.
In other words Mother Nature's her own natural smog.
And natural is good, no?

Fraudulently used statistics. Try per person instead gross to see that.
And then when, even this meagre level was reached (a few years ago).

 

Your really do know nothing about nothing...Falcon was designed and flown before Obama was even President, and Dragon was developed and designed before Obama was President - although it would be first flown in 2010.

Nice try at using alternative facts.

 

I meant Falcon 9, you knew that.
Falcon 1 is obsolete and an old news. Falcon 9 is revolutionary.

 

Regretfully, you are in error yet again.

Falcon 9 began design and development in 2005, prior to Obama taking office.

Another wm. Alternative Facts Fail.

 

You are a master of pointless trivia.
Yes, they announced it in 2005, and maybe started the serious work in 2006 or 2007, it's hard to tell because they deleted all their early press releases on their site. It's first flight was in 2010.

The point was one guy built an amazing thing in a few years, inspiring hundreds of millions of people all around the world in the process.
And the other did nothing in eight years, at best inspiring only the transgender bathrooms aficionados.

 

Except it was in the top three or 4 best investments this country has made. More than paid for itself many times over.

 

If the US wishes to fly anywhere in space, NASA better first find a replacement for the Russian RD180 engines which it longer imports...

 

Already has.

 

With Space-X now surpassing NASA and N. Korean potential icbms blowing up on the pad, it's not what Donald is doing, but rather what people like Jared Kushner are doing that should be of scrutiny. Check out his father Charles Kushner and his pal Govenor Gov. Chris Christie. People should be scrutinizing what they're doing. Maybe throw in Steve Bannon for flavor.

 

Yes, thank you.

And you are the master of lies, half-truths, and Alternative Facts.

Well, at least you admit to that. It also disproves your lie that "Obama just wasted eight years building that pork-laden rocket to nowhere, in the same time Spacex created Falcon and Dragon out of nothing."

Further, you seem to completely misunderstand the relationship between SpaceX and NASA. As well as the shift of NASA away from being a rocket owner/operator to a client of corporations providing those services - Which was begun under President Reagan with the Commercial Space Launch Act of 1984. This was expanded under President George W. Bush, and further enlarged under President Barack Obama.

Funny how the Obama haters suddenly suffer from CRS while they are dishing out their bile...Curiosity, Juno, and New Horizons were major successes for NASA under Obama.

That is not to say that there were not mistakes made though - the shift away from "Look what we can do" to the "Look what I can do" has led to a deterioration in relations with the rest of the international space community. As well as, a lack of flagship missions that would generate more public interest in NASA.

 

Trump is supporting policies and pushing things that are totally against his campaign promises and constituents' interests. He's a corporate fascist thru and thru.

 

Whats NASA using?