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Finally: Justice for Assange ...

Discussion in 'The Stump' started by Tamino, Aug 17, 2012.

  1. Sloniksp

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    Used to be over 50 in the 83'
    https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.businessinsider.com/these-6-corporations-control-90-of-the-media-in-america-2012-6?client=safari

    Sorry I misspoke concerning main stream media. The poll was conducted concerning US Intel...

    Again I'm not familiar with the site but the poll does exist.

    http://www.trump-conservative.com/news/twitter-poll-83-of-american-believe-wikileaks-over-u-s-intelligence-community/
     
  2. lwd

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    Well the 90% thing seams a bit confused as they never do define what they mean by media but include movies and radio station play list while I suspect more people are listening to streaming audio and/or music they've downloaded now. The old media giants were the AP and the UP I believe and almost all international and even national news from the smaller outlets came from those two so their may even be more variation now. All in all a rather questionable report.

    As for the "poll" it's a "twitter poll" posted by an individual. About as unscientific as you can get.
     
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    Haha I really can't comment on the Twitter poll. Is it scientific? Probably not very but it is a poll and those who took part overwhelmingly voted in favor of Wiki Leaks.

    As for the corporations and they're control over media... Some claim it's alarming.
     
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    True, but most of what they report on comes from the Associated Press(AP).
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Associated_Press

    While the United Press International (UPI) once almost equaled the AP in the 1960's, it has been on a long decline since then. Now, it is but a small sliver of it's former self, and contributes very little in the way of mainstream news, focusing instead on niche subjects.


    So, while one person may think that only 6 corporations are in charge of the US media, really, only two were in charge of the news, and now it is only one.
     
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    And due to the way it was conducted can generate almost nothing but unwarranted conclusions. I.e. your statement that "most" trust wikileaks over mainstream media if based on this is completely unwarranted.


    At one point in time most of the reporting was from the AP and UPI as you point out. Today while the UPI isn't much of a player anymore the role of the AP has also been reduced considerably. It's much easier to reach out to local news organizations or even individuals at the scene of events and get the information from them directly. Thirty years ago few in this country heard anything from the BBC for instance but one can listen to it directly on the cable or the internet almost anywhere today. Likewise with many other foreign news services.
     
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    Aside from GB (jumping bail warrant), seems that the US remains the sole country determined to prosecute Assange?
     
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    Typical...it Would Be my country...we want to prosecute him, a non citizen, for telling the truth.
     
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    Many seem to wonder the same thing...

    Could be a dangerous precedent?
     
  10. lwd

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    ??? Are you knowingly trying to spin the story to fit your perceptions or do you really not know/understand what and why they are considering prosecuting him.?
     
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    Of course i know why. The same reason "they" are apprehensive anytime somebody pulls back the curtain that protects State Power.
    The same reason they persecuted Daniel Ellsberg.
    The same reason Robin Hood was a wanted criminal.
    The same reason they tried to prosecute Malcolm Little for something a stupid as mail fraud regards a misspelled word..
    There is nothing elusive about Why.
     
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    So you are trying to spin it to fit your perceptions while ignoring anything that doesn't fit. At least you admitted it.
     
  13. denny

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    So you are just putting words in my mouth to suit your own ego. At least you admit it.
    Or was your condescending post just "spin".
    You sound angry.
    Or perhaps you are the personification of what happen when speaking truth to power. "They" get upset.:)
    Have A Good Day.
     
  14. lwd

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    Nope. Didn't put any words in your mouth at all. By trivializing the situation and spinning it as you did you communicated that perfectly all on your own.

    Be a one dimensional thinker if you want but the chances of you being even close to correct with such an approach are vanishingly small.
     

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