Hitlerjugend Knife

Hello everyone,

Today i got a gift from my grandpa who was a member from the hitlerjugend in Belgium.A HJ knife,The knife is dated : M6/3 and under that 1937

Its a nice HJ knife but i've looked on the internet and the inscription of blut und ehre is different.


Can anyone explain ??
And also does anybody know what it's worth?

 

Although the "blut und ehre" inscription is common, not all HJ knives had it. After 1938, the inscription was forgotten altogether.

What does yours say? Some pictures would be great to determine a value!

 

I confirm, a picture would help greatly for identification purposes

 

These go for at least $300.00 on the US market-and probably somewhat more as long as its in nice condition-early make as yours is, has scabbard and the HJ diamond in the hilt. A few years ago i was offered two of these in nice condition including scabbard and HJ diamonds abnd such-nice conditions one with inscription on blade-the other w/o-and was told the guy wanted $300 for the pair. Back then I thought that was abouit $100 too high, I now wish I had bought them because I could have used them for great trading material. However, the only HJ item I ever owned-happened to be a HJ Leaders Armband--which I traded off about 10 years ago.

 

genuine ones go at least for 500 € here

 

some pics:

 

I confirm it's an authentic hJ (from what I see and considering I am no expert in the matter) . I believe it's an early making.

 

Hi Thompson , thanks for the pictures.

I can't say too much about these knives, however the code M6/3 1937 is generally used on fakes and not often found. A common code is M7 - can your grandad tell you anything about how he got it? It could be a post war copy that he purchased.

 

Like i said,my grandad got it when hé was in the hitlerjugend.

 

You just said that he was in the HJ and not where the knife came from. There's a chance it was purchased post war. Do you mind if I post your photos on another forum?

 

No of course i don't mind but why ?

 

I think it's a genuine one, I could be wrong, but having this common code and knowing it was used for fakes doesn't mean this particular one is not good.

 

There's a forum that has a devoted daggers/edged weapons forum, so I posted it there and its not looking good:

HJ Knife - M6/3 1937 - Wehrmacht-Awards.com Militaria Forums

Skipper, I should of said that M6/3 is common code on fakes and was never documented as being used for HJ knives. i.e. that maker never existed.

 

It looks OK to me but--I am no edged weapon expert unless you want to talk about my small Bayonet and knife colection.

 

Someone on that forum says a Belgian Hitlerjugend didn't exist.

It existed!!!

nieuwe encyclopedie van de vlaamse beweging

 

jeah i have seen the knife an it is real

 

After the fall of belgium in 1940 the german speaking peoples of belgium were absorbed into the german opulation on the border regions and mnay members of these people were indicted into various german organizations and also in the rebuilding of the siegfried line.so ti say a Belgian HJ didt exist is false as the were at that point Germans and not belgians according to the German doctorins of the time

 

I think that person is wrong to say a belgian HJ never existed, however the mark M6/3 was never documented as a maker and there are no genuine examples of this maker around. Most begin with M7. The inscription is also a worry, as I have never seen it before and it is considered to be a fake inscription.

It is either aged artificially or like I said before, was purchased after the war and is therefore showing age.

The easiest thing to do is ask your grandad how and exactly when he got the knife and also when he joined the HJ - if he joined after 1937 then he would of more likely recieved a knife with the corresponding date. I'm pretty sure they didn't stockpile these things.

 

Today I went to my grandad and i discovered somethings,
first:He bought it from someone after the war.
second:My dad was wrong(he told me my grandad got it when he was in HJ.)

 

Thanks for research!