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Interesting Polish Hummer in Iraq

Discussion in 'Post-World War 2 Armour' started by TISO, Dec 17, 2007.

  1. TISO

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    Take a note to marking and No.18 on the shield :
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    I'm sorry for the crew but if they painted the said markings it is perhaps a little justice in the mine/IED that they run over. Looking at the doors on the second pic No.18 is obviously not a wehicle's ID number.

    For those unfamiliar it is a divisional sign of 1. LSSAH and no.18 means the letters of alphabeth:
    1 = A for Adolf
    8 = H for Hitler

    So much for bringing democraty to Iraq :grin:
     
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    I can't understand why a Polish vehicle would have those markings, if the intent was to emulate the LSAH, given how much the Poles suffered under Nazi occupation.
     
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    Well you can find nazis and Adolf admirers even in Israel these days. Here i don't mean local version but true blood svastika & "Sieg heil" variety of idiots.
     
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    Really. That is shocking! Btw, wasn't Adolf Eichmann a Jew?
     
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    where did you get the piccies from?

    Has anyone complained about it?

    FNG
     
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    I suppose it is more a military thing as opposed to a political-ideological thing.

    I remember a few years ago seeing soime Israeli armourer with an SS logo on the side. Not to mention the Brandenburg gate looking logo for the 3rd Panzer Division.

    Its interesting though. Something about German military style and organisation makes people from all over interested and admiring.

    Kym
     
  7. TISO

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    Yes they did.
    Sorry i forgot to list sources :oops:
    http://www.modellboard.net/thread.php?threadid=22649&sid=
    http://www.armyrecognition.com/News/2006/May/Military_News_may_2006_UK.htm

    Doubt it. If it was just the LSSAH div. sign, then i would maybe agree, but with No.18 i would bet it is an ideological/political thingy as it is well known nazi scene code.

    No he wasn't. he did speak Jiddish though which landed him job in Jewish section of SD sending Jews to Palestine before the war.
     
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    Movies are probably a bad source, however at the end of the film Platoon a M113 appears with a Nazi-flag, did this really happen in vietnam ??


    BTW we had a strange discussion in Germany (even the Bundestag was not amused), coz some german soldiers of the ISAF painted a palm on their vehicles. And this was so similar to the palm of teh Afrikakorps that the teacher of my politcal course nearly got a heart attack ^^

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    I disagree with what they did and I can't really believe that there CO let that slide...He must've been very outve it or not known any history. That Humvee doesnt look to be as armoured as some of the American counterparts are now. was this taken near the beginnings of the war?

    also talking about humvees check out this armour for a humvee gunner..

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    I didn't know about the significance of'18',but the emblem jumped right off the screen almost.
     
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    I don't mind the palm, the Afrika Corps holds a soft spot in my mind.

    Plus I do not consider it a political emblem, where as the LSAH being the first and their background is the most policitcal of all the SS units.

    FNG
     
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    What was the LSAH?
     
  13. TISO

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    1. SS panzergrenadier division "Lieb Standarte Adolf Hitler"
     
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    Did nobody notice that they left the swastika off? :roll:

    btw - what kind of truck is that?
     
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    you see thats the problem, the 7th armoured are proud of their desert tradition and paint their rats on everything they can get their mits on.

    Yet the some german paints a palm tree on his truck and causes riots.

    Why should the none political panzer units of germanys army be forced to abandon all their markings and be shamelful of their history? Though I do agree that the SS units are best left alone due to their political background.

    FNG
     
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    well since no saw this before ill guess ill have to point it out again....

    http://youtube.com/watch?v=xGoKV5mgwSA

    watch from 3:21 on, and look at the markings on the tank...the swastika has been replaced by the anchor,eagle and globe...
     
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    You think? I see a palm type tree insignia on a vehicle in Arabia, for what it's worth the Saudi Air Force have a palm tree as the central part of their roundel (OMG!!! They're Nazis!!! :roll: ), I see no huge shock in the fact that people may equate hot sandy places with palm trees and introduce them in sylised form as emblems.
     
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    It´s a Mungo, which is an air-transportable, armoured multirole transport vehicle of the German Army for its Airmobile Operations Division and Special Operations Division. It is based on the Multicar M30/FUMO and is produced by Krauss-Maffei Wegmann and Rheinmetall. Deliveries of 396 Mungos for the German Army began in 2005.

    The German Army plans to procure another 441 Mungo ESKs by 2011.


    to the left swastika, I don´t care about the palm aswell, however in the eyes of the politians it was a symbol, which imitates a Nazi-symbol and so it represents the suffering caused by the regime. It´s hard to explain, but german politians are quite sensitve with something like that.

    Unfortunately, just in german

    http://www.netzeitung.de/ausland/450175.html

    http://www.focus.de/politik/ausland/bun ... 18435.html

    http://www.sueddeutsche.de/ausland/artikel/421/90331/

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    Regards,
    Che
     
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    There is definately such a thing as being over-sensitive.

    As Simon said, any unit operating in desert terrain has limited options for a theatre-related badge, the most obvious and recognisable of which is a palm tree.

    And besides, the Afrika Corps were not exactly noted for being particularly Nazi in their actions (unless I missed something)
     

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