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Is it worth digging for WW2 relics

Discussion in 'WWII Today' started by skywalker, Feb 3, 2009.

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  1. Aru-Ed

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    Thanks for the warning, i'm as carefull as i can be, always!
     
  2. C.Evans

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    It all boils down to a matter of opinion as well as how much respect a person has for the deceased-and also if the item was "found or dug-up" at some Grave site. For the most part-on those who do profit from obtaining these relics from what they KNOW as a grave site-yes-I have a negative opinion about those people. However, if a person just happens to be walking along and finds a relic and who not-knowingly knows that that site COULD contain the remains of a Gent who walked that ground-fought and died there-then I do not hold a negative opinion about that person.

    Now in the case of digs happening at ancient places of note-thevast majority of those cases are so opposite than that of those who are profiteers of grave sites. I used to go on "Digs" with a group from the Corpus Christi Museum of Science and History-knowing that artifacts we found could have come from a person who died at that spot.

    One of the main differences between an expedition doing the dig-or some scoundrel of a profiteer digging at a known grave site-is that Museums and Scientists do not do the relic-finds for profit-bt for prosperity-and it is also a way of ensuring the memories of those who died at that sopt-or location. More than one person benefits from sich digs-but a person who buys dug-up relics-is one of few who will benefit from such a find.

    So in essance-yeah-I personally do have a problem with those who knowingly rob graves making a profit from it. I however, do not have a problem with a person finding that rusted helmet-if they were walking down Utah Beach.

    Also, like you said, in different words of course) that if a person on such profiteering digs does find the remains of a deceased Soldier-and that he goes to any length of so-called "trouble" in notifying proper Authorities-that it makes robbing that soldiers final resting place-an OK thing to do-is nothing but bunkem and bosh. Also, a profiteer is most unlikely willing to take the time and trouble of notifying the proper authorities in the first place and who is in a hurry to place his findings up for sale. Therefore, that soldiers final resting place is likely to never be reported-and the man is then truely lost to history.

    That practice is nothing but a disgusting practice.
     
  3. skywalker

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    But is everyone who digs doing it for profit, or for themselves because they collect WWII relics. I dont really think people walk down Utah beach an find helmets, not these days. Albeit you do make a good point, but not one I entirely agree with.
    In regards to the Eastern Front arent the majority of graves unmarked ?
    Admittedly either way the prosperity of those relics live on, regardless of whos doing it. After viewing the videos on youtube an reading the comments it seems to be a pretty widespread practice.
     
  4. Skipper

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    Yes there are distinctions to be made. As Martin says, there is nothing worse than robbing burial sites, I know these things happen but they are fortunately marginal.
    However finding relics , even if it's just a piece of worthless iron is like finding a treasure for a child. There is a sentimental value for the collector who went through a lot of trouble to get these objects. I will always value certan piece smore than others. I once found a tiny part of an me- 109 windshield (4 x3cm) . I love it because it is something you cannot find with a detector , so it was pure luck and I like to think it's the last thing the pilot looked through before bailing out.
    Also what I find, I keep and restore with love. I'm not after profit and I want to preserve and save these relics and share them with others. (Now I must admit I get older and haven't been looking for relics for months) I never go out with the idea of selling what I might find. If I don't find anything that's fine too, I would just have spent a fine day reliving history.
     
  5. skywalker

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    Yes there are distinctions, yet how would a Russian relic hunter be able to tell the difference between an unmarked grave or perhaps the resting place of a helmet. If you are going out intentionally to find WWII relics there is a large possibility of coming across the remains of soldiers. Should the distinction be made between someone who robs known graves or an enthusiast who uncovers a helmet that happens to have a skull attached to it ?
     
  6. C.Evans

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    This discussion is beginning to go round and round in circles. Apparently you think it's OK to steal from the dead? that's disgusting to say the least.

    Have a nice life-i'm outta here.
     
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    Sorry, but the thought that someone might steal from the dead instead of reporting such a find makes me vomit, there are some words that have some importance for me such as "morality", "respect of the dead" , and "sacrifice"

    Since this is going nowhere this thread is now closed !
     
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