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Is this a reproduction? Looks like Leiburmuster

Discussion in 'Uniforms, Personal Gear (Kit) and Accessories' started by pengd0t, Sep 24, 2015.

  1. pengd0t

    pengd0t New Member

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    I bought a shirt (/ field jacket?) and I don't know exactly what it is. The pattern looks like Leiburmuster to me, and doesn't have the white spots that the Swiss "aspenflage" pattern does. I'm not sure how to know what exactly it is though and I'm hoping someone here can help.

    Sewn in tag inside says KBB 86/87 on the bottom line and otherwise has the materials in english and German and washing instructions.
    https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B2plPu-BONKoLTR1MGpnem1yNlk
    https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B2plPu-BONKoelhZeG5WLXQ1enc

    I also bought another in what looks like maybe the oak pattern. The tag on that one is a lot more cryptic and I have no idea what information it's trying to convey. Any info on either would be very much appreciated.
    https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B2plPu-BONKoZy1nYmk4SFd5Qm8
    https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B2plPu-BONKoZW1qdGh6cXFUd2M
     
  2. Skipper

    Skipper Kommodore

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    post war indeed , possibly Italian . The second one is German but modern Bundes army . Both have no value.
     
  3. SKYLINEDRIVE

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    Nix "Leibermuster", nix "Eichen Tarn"! The first one is the old Swiss army "TAZ83" camo pattern, it was in use until 1990, it's predecessor, the "TAZ57" was based on the "Leibermuster" of the "Wanker SS" though! So you were not far off the mark with that one. The second one is the current use "Bundeswehr" camo pattern.
    On the tag you can read the name of the producer, Feuchter, who is based in the town of Ringelai, then the size in different sizing systems, followed by what I guess are BW and NATO stock numbers. Then 65% "Baumwolle" = Cotton, 35% Polyester and the washing instructions. The swiss camo is sometimes called "Alpenflage" "Alpen" = german for alps, not Aspenflage.
     
  4. pengd0t

    pengd0t New Member

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    Thanks for the wealth of knowledge.

    I bought these to resell and didnt pay much for both together. Had to grab them as a guy wearing all camo was headed for them with a curious look on his face.

    I see various reproductions on eBay that have sold for as much as $50 or so. I assume that some good condition authentic items would have to be much more valuable. But are these truly worthless? Or just in comparison to the authentic stuff?
     
  5. lwd

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    If they fit they are probably good sturdy working cloths and if you like the looks that's even better.
     
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    QFT! The Swiss one should be of excellent quality!
     
  7. Skipper

    Skipper Kommodore

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    They are sold to hunters and rednecks . Surplus store have them for a few euros a piece. Caps go for 2 euros.
     

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