Carl, while you and I will never be able to agree politically, I would not be able to hold my head up in polite company if I compalined about your ideas. It is possible, I hope, to have a gentlemanly disagreement without being disagreeable. I think it is important to view as many sides of an issue as possible, if not to seek agreement, then to at least know what the debate is about. To be honest, some of the posts I read of yours early on had me re-thinking my decision to join this site. Once I realized that it was my responsibility to make my thinking known, I felt able to accept your point of view, as long as I was free to express my own. To my way of thinking, while some of the debate has been heated, I've come to rather enjoy the interplay among the Rogues. I have been in contact with several whose ideas either challenge my thinking or support it. You are one of them, and I thank you for that. Beyond the FFZ, I have learned a tremendous amount from trolling the various threads and filling in my admittedly sparse knowledge of technical aspects of WW2. Unless a post is just plain mean-spirited, my support of free speech wouldn't allow me to quiet someone's opinion.