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My Grandfather's Watch

Discussion in 'Uniforms, Personal Gear (Kit) and Accessories' started by billrose, Feb 25, 2015.

  1. billrose

    billrose New Member

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    Hi. I'm hoping someone here can assist me in my effort to find out which specific wristwatch (manufacturer, year, model number, etc.) my grandfather would have been issued when he enlisted in the US Army on 11/2/1944. If I can track down this information (or get close enough) my plan is to purchase one of the same make & model.

    His Army Record information can be found here in case that helps:
    http://aad.archives.gov/aad/record-detail.jsp?dt=893&mtch=1&cat=GP23&tf=F&q=33894672&bc=sl&rpp=10&pg=1&rid=4344137

    Thanks in advance to anyone who can shed any light on this topic.

    Bill
     
  2. andrwoo

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    During WW II, usually, a watch was only considered necessary for ground and naval officers, aviators, and others with command or technical responsibilities. While official service watches were available, many enlisted men, and particularly officers, obtained their own stylish wristwatch or added a distinctive band to their military watch.

    The A-11 was generally the most common issued watch. However, the A-11 was not so much a specific model but a standard used by several companies (Elgin, Bulova and Waltham), with many case and minor dial/hands variations, even silver housings as nickel was highly sought for the war effort. Some design aspects were largely universal: Black dial; white hands; a hand wound hacking movement with center second hand, hour numbers from 1 to 12; a second scale with smaller minute/second numbers in increments of 10 on the outside edge of the dial; and same-type minute and hour hands. Several A-11 versions featured a characteristic coin-edge bezel and caseback. Some were dustproof, others were waterproof.

    Here is the handbook issued for the Type -11 Navigation (Hack Watch, No. 10616. A very common issued watch.

    So I think maybe you can see that if he was issued a watch it would be next to impossible to know which one he was specifically issued.

    I hope this helps.
     
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    Hi @andrwoo. Thank you for the information - really helpful and really appreciated. I think my best bet is probably to just look for an A-11 I like from 1944/45.

    Bill
     
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    formerjughead The Cooler King

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    I have an A-11 like the one pictured in Lou's post...it is in good condition; but it doesn't work, it did work though. I wore it for quite a while as a dress watch.
     
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  6. billrose

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    Thanks guys! Appreciate the additional info.
     
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    formerjughead The Cooler King

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    I guess the moral of my story was that I have one if you want it
     
  8. billrose

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    Hi formerjughead. Very interesting. What are you looking to get for it?... and any idea what kind of investment will be required to bring it back to life?
     
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    formerjughead The Cooler King

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    I do not know....I can't imagine it would be very much. I have a guy I'll get to take a look at it an et you know.

    As far as price I am not too concerned with that either; it's a busted watch.
     
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    Sounds good, thank you. That is an extremely generous offer.

    I'd be interested in seeing a picture of it if you get a chance.
     
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    formerjughead The Cooler King

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    I will certainly do that as soon as I find it and figure out how to post a picture, feel free to keep on me about it
     
  12. billrose

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    Hi formerjughead. Wanted to check back in about that watch and whether you are able to post a picture. Thanks.
     
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    Jug you can Post a pic on a buffer site like imageshack and copy and paste it here. If it doesn't work send it to me via email and I'll do it for you
     
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    formerjughead The Cooler King

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    PM me your email address....please
     
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    Here are the pictures
     
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    Thanks Skip.

    Jug, I'll send you a PM.
     
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    formerjughead The Cooler King

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    That back picture is not very clear....let me see if I can get it any better
     
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    Don't worry about an updated picture, I would be interested to know if the serial # on the back starts with a 43, 44, or 45, though.
     
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    formerjughead The Cooler King

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    This is what is written on the back:

    TYPE A-11​
    SPEC NO 94-2783-B​
    SER NO AF-44-43211​
    MFRS PART NO2114​
    ORD. NO. W11-107-AC267​
    ELGIN
     

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